Dealing with stress and anxiety

For about a year now I have had problems with anxiety and to a lesser extent stress. It comes out in several ways. I can have panic attacks occaisionally but I've learnt to control these so they're not a problem. Breathing can often become irregular, even to the point where automatic breathing stops altogether. I can get massive, massive headaches.

Worst thing is food. I have utterly no appetite and if I force myself to eat I feel incredibly sick. I don't eat anything before I go out now because it is almost garaunteed to ruin that evening.

Pretty much at the end of my own ability to deal with it all now, and I don't know what to do.

I suffer from the odd anxiety attack, and have done for years - about 10 years ago I had quite severe ones and on a few occasions had my flatmate take me to the hospital as I feared I might die. They are terrible quite frankly. More than once due to the lack of oxygen, not being able to breath properly, my hands literally cramped up like claws as what oxygen I had was being used by my main body systems. And the more you stress out about the anxiety and inability to breathe, the worse they can get - a vicious cycle. I ****ing hate panic attacks - but thankfully they happen rarely now - normally if I have been preparing for something I dread for a long time (like having to make a public speech).

There are many websites about these anxiety attacks Ferrets, but for me, they just seemed to pass and happen less and less often with time. I honestly wish I knew some way apart from the breathing exercises (in through the nose deep and slow, out the the mouth all the way) - perhaps overall relaxation, like meditation etc?

In my case drug use in my late teens, early 20s had some bearing on my mentality - a bit of paranoia also from negative life experiences - I think because these things don't bother me so much with the passage of time things have improved for me.

Sorry I couldn't be of much help - but you are not alone in suffering these bastard episodes.

If I ever feel out of place or panicky, I just stop. Stop walking, talking or whatever, and I just close my eyes and breathe deep for a little while till everything settles down.

I also suffer from migraines a lot. Baths are a great way to de-stress, and early nights. Also, try breathing in anything with menthol or eucalyptus in it. It'll clear your head.

If you find it hard eating, drink something instead. Anything that isn't water your body treats as food and will extract nutrients etc from it. Just avoid energy drinks. Green tea is what I swear by if I am feeling ill or down. Plus it burns calories for you ;).

Go seek out some professional help - seriously. There's no need for this condition but an internet forum wont solve your problems.

I could give you advice ranging from autogeneous training to drugs, but imho professional help in real life will be most efficient.

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Originally Posted by Ferrets54

For about a year now I have had problems with anxiety and to a lesser extent stress. It comes out in several ways. I can have panic attacks occaisionally but I've learnt to control these so they're not a problem. Breathing can often become irregular, even to the point where automatic breathing stops altogether. I can get massive, massive headaches.

Worst thing is food. I have utterly no appetite and if I force myself to eat I feel incredibly sick. I don't eat anything before I go out now because it is almost garaunteed to ruin that evening.

Pretty much at the end of my own ability to deal with it all now, and I don't know what to do.

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Damn dude, go to a doctor, that sounds like some serious medical condition there. Any internet diagnoser worth his salt will tell you to go to a doctor.

I knew this girl in my math class once back in H.S., she'd have these panic attacks. I remember it freaking me out because that was the first time ive ever seen anyone suffer from a panic attack. I felt bad for her cause everyone would stare, and she'd just wave them off like "its ok, its ok, im fine, go back to your studies"

i have suffered terribly from insomnia for at least the last year though much longer in a less severe way and i too am pretty much at the end of my tether.
where i work we have a pretty extensive library of books on the subject ranging from day to day stress to people wanting to top themselves (not necessarily in the same book) anyway i have a horrifically long shift tonight and i'm gonna have plenty of reading time. i'll get back to you via PM if anything really helpful comes up

I went to a counsellor a couple of times at University but it didn't help much beyond learning how to control the panic attacks. I went to the doctors the other month and he gave me some low dose beta blockers but they do **** all. Going back on Thursday so I suppose he'll give me some stronger stuff.

But it's hardly a permament solution. Hopefully it will just see me through until I'm living on my own again at Uni which will help me incredibly.

ask your doctor about self medicating, maybe he'll prescribe you some medicinal marijuana and you'll be IN like SIN boyyyyy! yeah!

On a side note, what you're experiencing looks like hyperventilation to me - it's not that serious but seek out someone who'll profesionaly deal with the underlying reasons...

I would not mind medicinal marijuana meself!

If you're into that natural help stuff try St Johns Wort and Ginseng. They help you to relax.

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ask your doctor about self medicating, maybe he'll prescribe you some medicinal marijuana and you'll be IN like SIN boyyyyy! yeah!

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not in the UK he wont

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Originally Posted by Gary88

not in the UK he wont

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Dont tell me the UK marijuana laws are even stricter than they are here? I was sure no country had stricter marijuana laws than us.

God, cannabis is like the last thing you should be taking if you want to get rid of anxiety.

you'll end up schizo

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Dont tell me the UK marijuana laws are even stricter than they are here? I was sure no country had stricter marijuana laws than us.

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probably not we just dont prescribe it

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Originally Posted by Ferrets54

God, cannabis is like the last thing you should be taking if you want to get rid of anxiety.

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well, sure, if you live in an environment that constantly causes you paranoia.

Oh, whats that noise! Oh, is that my dad? what if he comes in and catches me! Oh! Oh! I'm so scared, im jumping at every noise just like a stereotypical paranoid pothead.

Yeah, if you cant relax while youre smoking...anything...then why smoke? Its meant to be a relaxing experience, tobacco included.

You said you have no appetite and that youre stressed, marijuana helps in both those fields, doesnt it? Besides, how many more prescription pills have to be discontinued because it turns out they cause death?

Just a little while ago they found out Vioxx increases heart attack percentages by 40%. Say what you will but marijauna never harmed a soul.

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Originally Posted by Ferrets54

God, cannabis is like the last thing you should be taking if you want to get rid of anxiety.

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Exactly - it would actually likely worsen the condition.
Don't listen to self-medication tips on an internet forum and see a doctor - also (if he considers it indicated) have a gastroscopy as you're likely to suffer from gastritis (or swallow a flashlight and your webcam and post the pictures here :P)...

I'm not giving him self medication tips, I'm saying ask your doctor if marijuana is right for you


maybe hell give you some Cannibinol, thats a pill that lowers stress and increases appetite but with none of the fun effects of actual marijuana

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Say what you will but marijauna never harmed a soul.

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other than the fact its the equivelent of 5 cigarettes in carcinogen terms and linked to inumerable mental health issues

Ferrets my brother, I'm sorry to hear this. It's a bit of a surprise, because I read so much confidence and knowledge in your posts.
I don't want to pry, but have you identified the source? This is fundamental. If you don't squash the source then this **** doesn't end.
I had horrible anxiety attacks, similar to what both you and Boof describe. You know what? They ended when I buggered off and joined the army at 17. The source was my bloody ol' man. For the first time I was free of that dastard. Kind of funny that digging shell scrapes in frozen earth, barking NCO's, and Gulf War One didn't hold a candle to the stress my crochety ol' man gave me.:laughter:.
What, is it school? Home? You don't have to tell us knuckleheads on TWC, but if you identify the source and cut it out of your life, well, it did it for me. Now if I could only get Mrs. Arrrgh! from hitting me with the frying pan...

They will prescribe marijuana in the UK if you are in *extreme* pain.

My grandfather had 3 types of cancer (lung, liver and bone) and he was on morphine. They were going to put him in medicinal marijuana, but he passed away.

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Originally Posted by Gary88

other than the fact its the equivelent of 5 cigarettes in carcinogen terms and linked to inumerable mental health issues

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You can smoke out of a vaporizer and bake canabis butter if youre worried about carcinogens and your lungs.

And what do you mean "its equal to 5 cigarrettes"? That sounds like complete B.S. to me, what's equal to 5 cigarrettes? A nickel bag? A dime bag? An eighter? An ounce?

Anyway, you dont HAVE to smoke marijuana to get the desired effects. Ferrets is complaining of high stress and low appetite. Well, there is a pill made from Cannabis extracts called Marinol, that helps alleviate those exact problems. And its not illegal because its fully supported by the pharmaceutical industry, so that should put all the law-abiding citizen's concerns to rest, knowing full well that just enough and just the right kind of people were bribed to bring you a new drug from Merck and Phizer.

Here, sorry the prescription pill is called Marinol not Cannibanol. That was my mistake, but this pill is real and legal and safe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marinol

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Originally Posted by Captain Arrrgh!ina

Ferrets my brother, I'm sorry to hear this. It's a bit of a surprise, because I read so much confidence and knowledge in your posts.
I don't want to pry, but have you identified the source? This is fundamental. If you don't squash the source then this **** doesn't end.
I had horrible anxiety attacks, similar to what both you and Boof describe. You know what? They ended when I buggered off and joined the army at 17. The source was my bloody ol' man. For the first time I was free of that dastard. Kind of funny that digging shell scrapes in frozen earth, barking NCO's, and Gulf War One didn't hold a candle to the stress my crochety ol' man gave me.:laughter:.
What, is it school? Home? You don't have to tell us knuckleheads on TWC, but if you identify the source and cut it out of your life, well, it did it for me. Now if I could only get Mrs. Arrrgh! from hitting me with the frying pan...

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Well, that's the thing, I am pretty confident. I have good enough self-esteem most of the time and am utterly fearless towards other people or difficult situations like public speaking which I can do easily.

This is different though. The anxiety feeds on itself. You are anxious of being anxious which makes you anxious, if you follow. If you think ahead, "actually I'm worried if I eat this I will feel ill and be unable to go out" then you get anxious about that and it happens.

Stress builds up, and can be taken from other stressful people around you. I think the major problem is living at home. I have no real freedom, my mum does not listen to me at all and there is nothing I can do about this. My parents argue constantly. Daily. I got home today from visiting a friend in Lincolnshire and my parents were arguing, I heard my mum whining about being 'unloved'. When my Dad gets home from work they fight. Sometimes they will fight in their room at one o'clock in the morning keeping me and my siblings awake. My mum will occaisionally burst into the room that I'm in and yell at me for the oddest things, and it destroys my nerve. I have come close to yelling at them on several occaisions and have considered leaving home often. Trouble is I can't, I'm utterly trapped. I can go off to Reading to live at a friends house but I have no way in hell of getting my stuff up there unless my Dad drives me up there, so I just have to bare it all until I return to Uni on the 1st of October, which is an absolutely daunting time away, I don't even want to imagine the time. The only good things I have is that from this weekend onwards I will often be at Reading working the bar for weddings and business do's. I am already starting to plan where I will live next year - because I cannot come home.

My parents argue constantly (just read my blog...).
I escape to my room, and play my music loudly, thus locking myself up in my own little world.

The reason why I'm looking forward to uni, and why I'm away from home for about 4 days of the week. With my parents arguing I go where I cannot hear them, and drown them out with music, though I get told to turn it down.

And try and talk things over with your mum if she has these outbursts. I hate talking to my mum about that sort of thing, but sometimes it helps.

Can't escape. My siblings have all fortified one room each. All I have is this study and I can turn up whatever I'm watching or listening to but it's never enough.

You can do exercises, I do that too when I'm stressed. Toss on my headphones with my ipod and just excercise, run, box, stretch, kick, punch, sweat.

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Ferrets my brother, I'm sorry to hear this. It's a bit of a surprise, because I read so much confidence and knowledge in your posts

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yeah I thought the same at first. but usually troubled people act that way, no offense

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Originally Posted by -BulletproofTurban-

You can do exercises, I do that too when I'm stressed. Toss on my headphones with my ipod and just excercise, run, box, stretch, kick, punch, sweat.

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Yeah, this something I haven't explored much and I'm going to start running tomorrow. Before now I've been walking a lot, going out on the moors, but mostly to get away not work up a sweat.

Sorry Turban, I was skim-reading and vaguely remembered the word self-medication in one of your previous posts forgetting about the part on asking a doctor about it (which in case he'd prescribe it wouldn't be self-medication anymore, but anyway...).

For his digestive problems though, I doubt he'll receive Nabilone but rather Omeprazole, maybe in combination with amoxicillin and clarithromycin, depending on further results.

But clearly the underlying situation needs to be resolved, maybe helped with a little Buspirone...

I have mild anxiety problems, but it seems of a different sort then you. Mine is more of a social anxiety and a crap ton of stress. I think I acquired my stomach ulcer from all the anxiety 8 or so years ago, so it can be a really harmful thing even in small doses. Pretty much all I do is listen to music and that normally sets me straight, so just find something that calms you and makes you take your mind off of things.

Sounds like you're in need of a vacation, frankly.:huh:

*which reminded me that my own summer vacation just ended 4 minutes ago, officially, it's 00:04 'ere in Finland and it's school today at 10:30 :no:. Well, *****

Don't know if I should post here, but oh well.

I am a sufferer of anxiety, stress and depression.

I have been diagnosed with clinical depression, have dropped out of school, and have spent the night in a hospital because my psychologist was afraid I was going to kill myself.

I have self-harmed on dozens of occasions. I have practically split my legs open with a pair of scissors. I have two horrendous scars on my legs.

I can barely go outside. I have zero self-esteem. The only time I feel little or no stress is when I am alone, and even then I am stressed about housework I have to do.

I don't know what else to say... please post.

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Originally Posted by Bernard L Black

Don't know if I should post here, but oh well.

I am a sufferer of anxiety, stress and depression.

I have been diagnosed with clinical depression, have dropped out of school, and have spent the night in a hospital because my psychologist was afraid I was going to kill myself.

I have self-harmed on dozens of occasions. I have practically split my legs open with a pair of scissors. I have two horrendous scars on my legs.

I can barely go outside. I have zero self-esteem. The only time I feel little or no stress is when I am alone, and even then I am stressed about housework I have to do.

I don't know what else to say... please post.

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With a list of that many and severe problems the only thing I suggest is seeking professional help and getting properly medicated. Go to a psychologist he can help you better than anyone in here.

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Originally Posted by Black Hawk

With a list of that many and severe problems the only thing I suggest is seeking professional help and getting properly medicated. Go to a psychologist he can help you better than anyone in here.

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I already am. I thought it was about time someone outside my family knew. And TWC has a friendly atmosphere and provides just enough anonymity...

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Originally Posted by Bernard L Black

I already am. I thought it was about time someone outside my family knew. And TWC has a friendly atmosphere and provides just enough anonymity...

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Hasn't it helped you?

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Originally Posted by Black Hawk

Hasn't it helped you?

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Sort of. I don't think about killing myself so much anymore, and I haven't self-harmed in months.

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Originally Posted by Ferrets54

For about a year now I have had problems with anxiety and to a lesser extent stress. It comes out in several ways. I can have panic attacks occaisionally but I've learnt to control these so they're not a problem. Breathing can often become irregular, even to the point where automatic breathing stops altogether. I can get massive, massive headaches.

Worst thing is food. I have utterly no appetite and if I force myself to eat I feel incredibly sick. I don't eat anything before I go out now because it is almost garaunteed to ruin that evening.

Pretty much at the end of my own ability to deal with it all now, and I don't know what to do.

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your anxiety most likly comes from the fact the future is uncertain for you. when we where in school you knew what the next couple of years was about, school, 6th forum/college then university. now however you are at that last point and your like "**** what do i do with the rest of my life?" its something that happens to all people of our age, some people just brush it off others do not, if you remember it caused major depression for me a few months ago, for you it causes anxiety.

sadly the one thing i learnt is that the only cure is time, once you pick a career choice and start making advances towards it then it will go and suddenly you will feel purpose in your life, i felt so much better once i started to learn how to drive and signed up for the RAF, and once you make your choice you will as well.


in the short term talking helps! ether a trusted friend or relative can make you feel better even if they are just a person to moan at, parents would be best but i can understand thats not easy.


you will proberly find that your illness and the headaches etc are caused by your poor diet, if you fixed that you will feel 10 times better i swear.

cut out all caffine, or as much as you can, and keep suger down to a small amount.

drink less alcohol.

eat alot of fruit, when i feel ill bannana's are the only thing i feel like eating.

stop snacking and try to just eat 3 square meals a day.


edit: after reading the rest of the topic ignor my first paragraph or two. the only solutions i see is to talk with your parents, now i know its the hardest thing in the world but it is the only way to fix it, once then realise what they are doing is harming you it may help them stop, my parents had the odd arguement but they usually would go outside or whatever.

also think of your younger siblings, they have to put up with it all day every day when for you its just a few months, i would recomend for their sake you also be the big brother you need to be and speak on their behalf, imagen what its doing to them. dispite what your mum is doing you are still the most important thing in her life and its the same for your father and they feel the same about your siblings, true they dont always show it but they are human like you and i. if they discover that what they are doing is causing you so much pain they will go out of their way to stop it, its a parents worst nightmere that what they are doing is harming their child and it doesnt change no matter how old the kid gets, trust me mate talking to them will be best, who knows it may even be the words of their eldest son they need to make them realise what they are doing is so bad.

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Originally Posted by Bernard L Black

Sort of. I don't think about killing myself so much anymore, and I haven't self-harmed in months.

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We'll that shows progress which is a good thing :smile:, you just gotta keep at it and don't give up lol :thumbsup2

I personally find that running or boxing helps me out a lot with stress, you could also give that a try. Watching something funny on the television also helps out, try took at all the beautiful things in the world and don't concentrate so much on the sad things. :smile:

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Originally Posted by Black Hawk

Watching something funny on the television also helps out

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You have NO IDEA how much it helps. Basically it's all that keeps me floating.

Hell, I took my name from a British comedy series.

I take a lot of comfort in music when I'm feeling sad or melancholic.


Not whiny or sappy emo music, but crunk, tight beat, make-your-adrenaline-pump music.

thats basically what I do when I'm feeling low, I make my adrenaline bump and the natural chemicals to the brain elevate your mood.

Here's an excellent way of reducing stress and anxiety: Meditation.

Seriously don't laugh at it, it can work wonders for you. Not that hard to do and you'll feel a lot better.

I try to do it a few times a week.

yeah, or combine meditation with physical excercise like...so...so many do.

Turban's on to something... He kind of reminds me of this fella named 'Rzzza' from a few months back...
My addiction to working out stems from all the nonsense stress as a youth.
I didn't realize you're a limey though, bro, so joining the army to get out wouldn't be a smart idea. A nice long run though, man, that's sweet. Nobody -nobody- can **** with you're head while you're running....Man, it's glorious. And firing off 3 or four sets of plyometric pushups if the folks start arguing at night.
Also, you could research into the more serious pursuits of meditation. There's some really experienced members who can talk about it here, actually. Boof can probably provide you with some great links. He's helped me a lot.

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Originally Posted by LoZz

also think of your younger siblings, they have to put up with it all day every day when for you its just a few months, i would recomend for their sake you also be the big brother you need to be and speak on their behalf, imagen what its doing to them. dispite what your mum is doing you are still the most important thing in her life and its the same for your father and they feel the same about your siblings, true they dont always show it but they are human like you and i. if they discover that what they are doing is causing you so much pain they will go out of their way to stop it, its a parents worst nightmere that what they are doing is harming their child and it doesnt change no matter how old the kid gets, trust me mate talking to them will be best, who knows it may even be the words of their eldest son they need to make them realise what they are doing is so bad.

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There is no ****ing way in hell I am taking on that extra burden.

I have had many problems with anxiety over the years and have also tried beta-blockers, but I found them of little use in the long-term.

What I did was:

A) Booked weekly appointments with a psychiatric nurse who schooled me in anxiety-disorder management for twelve weeks; AND

B) Got on an SSRI anti-depressant for about a year...these are the type which are especially effective against anxiety disorder. I have used venlafaxine and duloxetine - the side-effects settled down after a month and then I felt the benefits very soon; AND

C) Pro-actively used the peace the drugs gave me to mentally sort through my problems, identify their root and philosophise solutions for myself which have done me excellent service ever since.

So that's my recommendation. And of course, as WE live in a CIVILISED country like the UK we don't have to worry about the cost of all this...the rich pay for it instead. Just tell your doctor how much you are affected by all the symptoms - panic attacks, insomnia, disordered dreams, inability to concentrate, weight-loss and chronic loss of appetite, etc., etc. If the doctor is not sympathetic then get an appointment with a different one until you get one cool enough to just give you what you need.

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Originally Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli

On a side note, what you're experiencing looks like hyperventilation to me - it's not that serious but seek out someone who'll profesionaly deal with the underlying reasons...

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It turns into hyperventilation for me - that's why you can't die from it. At worst you will pass out and then your breathing will return back to normal. Unless of course you have a heart condition or something.

Imagine someone blushing slightly, then thinking "****, I'm blushing and everyone can see it." The blushing gets worse. You realise it's getting worse and that makes it worse. Before you know it you are beetroot red.

Anxiety/panic attacks for me were the same. "Oh **** I can't breathe properly." Like a snowball expanding as it rolls down a slope the symptoms get worse, until you can only breathe conscious effort because you are so tensed up. I'd end up thinking "I might die". From hindsight I would think "why can't I just relax?" Well I couldn't because it is terribly hard to relax when you are slowly suffocating.

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Originally Posted by boofhead

It turns into hyperventilation for me - that's why you can't die from it. At worst you will pass out and then your breathing will return back to normal. Unless of course you have a heart condition or something.

Imagine someone blushing slightly, then thinking "****, I'm blushing and everyone can see it." The blushing gets worse. You realise it's getting worse and that makes it worse. Before you know it you are beetroot red.

Anxiety/panic attacks for me were the same. "Oh **** I can't breathe properly." Like a snowball expanding as it rolls down a slope the symptoms get worse, until you can only breathe conscious effort because you are so tensed up. I'd end up thinking "I might die". From hindsight I would think "why can't I just relax?" Well I couldn't because it is terribly hard to relax when you are slowly suffocating.

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What do you mean with "it turns into hyperventilation"? Imho, in your (or Ferrets) case it was hyperventilation from the beginning.
What Ferrets and you describe are perfect examples of the processes involved.
He said he's stressed and stress causes some people to subconsciously hyperventilate. Accordingly, more carbondioxide is exhaled, resulting in lowered CO₂ levels.
What then happens it the fact that CO₂ receptors which are mainly responsible for regulation of automatic breathing detect less CO₂, thus decreasing his breathing frequency to a point at which he perceives it to stop, considering it necessary to willingly breathe in deep.

As he didn't consciously realize the preceding hyperventilation, it appears like a sudden stop of automatic breathing.

Obviously his conscious breathing sufficiently counter-regulates at this point (i.e. he doesn't breathe too deep and fast), as he doesn't seem to suffer from full-fledged hyperventilation-syndrome, which would result from a shift in acid-base balance due to a lack of carbon-dioxide, resulting in a rise of his blood ph level, which in turn would increase calcium-binding to albumin due to a lack of protons. As free clacium plays a key role in muscular tonus, he would be likely to cramp. More importantly, it would cause his brain-vessels to contract resulting in a lowered blood supply, which ends in a vicious circle eventually resulting in him passing out.

Oh well - I better stop - I'm getting carried away...

I'd usually use my family for abating the stress.

Like just sit and be around my family. Father, mother, my younger sisters and brothers. Their sight shines rays into me, rays of hope, steadfastness, calmness, and basically, makes my stress go away.

I usually get headaches alot as well, and I mean alot. Never found a clear solution to that yet. Just try refreshing myself

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Originally Posted by Mighty

I'd usually use my family for abating the stress.

Like just sit and be around my family. Father, mother, my younger sisters and brothers. Their sight shines rays into me, rays of hope, steadfastness, calmness, and basically, makes my stress go away.

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That might work - if your family isn't a source of the stress you feel.

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Originally Posted by Bernard L Black

That might work - if your family isn't a source of the stress you feel.

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thats exactly what I was thinking. And its very famous these days to see families not united

I'm pretty chill but I find a shower works wonders with relieving stress. Other than that the closest I've gone to a panic attack is confronting my Chinese parents with a bad report card. And they can lay on some heavy ****.

But I usually just toughen up and weather it. Not sure the same can be said of your situation though...

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Originally Posted by Ferrets54

For about a year now I have had problems with anxiety and to a lesser extent stress.

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I had anxiety attacks after I returned from Afghanistan. I had almost lost my leg there and I was having really intense dreams about that event. Anytime I was awake and I thought about that day my heart would start to race, it felt like I was having a heart attack. I went on an anti-depressant/anxiety drug, took it for 2 months, decided to come off of it and I never had any issues any longer.

the "long breath" is the most effective way to bring about relaxation.

you must breathe in slowly counting to 15 -- you must fill 3 sections of your lungs bottom first to the middle then the top 5 seconds on each.

the trick is to then empty the lungs from the bottom to the top with a 15 second exhale-- it takes some practice so at first just breath in 15 seconds then breathe out 15 seconds this means you will take 2 full breaths every minute--- it will put you into a special place.

for some reason obviously this number varies but the deeper the breath you can take and the slower you can take it the better-- your heart will also slow down with this excercise and you will become more aware of your physical body in doing so ( being able to feel the beat of the heart allows you to alter it)

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Originally Posted by Niccolo Machiavelli

Oh well - I better stop - I'm getting carried away...

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:laughter: Yes indeed!

Feeling somewhat better the past day. Unfortunately work dates have been altered... yet again... so I wont be able to get away from the house for another two weeks yet. But then I can get away for a fortnight in Reading. Once I come home it will only be another couple of weeks until term starts properly and I can live on my own again, thank ****.

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Originally Posted by Ferrets54

There is no ****ing way in hell I am taking on that extra burden.

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well regardless if you want to make the situation better for your siblings or not the point still stands the only way you are going to fix it is to speak to your parents and tell them what they are doing to you. hard? you bet! this is going to be one of the hardest conversations you have had with them but for their relationships sake, and the sake of your health you need to. no amount of popping pills or posting here will fix that you and I both know this, serious mate just speak to them, what have you got to lose? if they ignor you then you are going to be no worse off then you are now but if they atlest take it outside of cut back on the argueing its going to help.

and being the older sibling you dont have the choice, you need to regardless of your relationship with them look out for your younger siblings health as well as your own, think about what this is doing to them? locking themselves away in a room is NOT healthy, look what its done to you in the month or two you have been home, atlest on october you will be free of it but what about them? and its no an extra burden at all because the solution is still the same, speak to your parents.

My solution is paroxatine, although I always spell it wrong.

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Originally Posted by LoZz

well regardless if you want to make the situation better for your siblings or not the point still stands the only way you are going to fix it is to speak to your parents and tell them what they are doing to you. hard? you bet! this is going to be one of the hardest conversations you have had with them but for their relationships sake, and the sake of your health you need to. no amount of popping pills or posting here will fix that you and I both know this, serious mate just speak to them, what have you got to lose? if they ignor you then you are going to be no worse off then you are now but if they atlest take it outside of cut back on the argueing its going to help.

and being the older sibling you dont have the choice, you need to regardless of your relationship with them look out for your younger siblings health as well as your own, think about what this is doing to them? locking themselves away in a room is NOT healthy, look what its done to you in the month or two you have been home, atlest on october you will be free of it but what about them? and its no an extra burden at all because the solution is still the same, speak to your parents.

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There's absolutely no point. I've tried before, again and again and again and it doesn't sink in and at worst I only set off another day long tantrum. I am clearly in no state to take on the saving of my siblings - all I can do is spend as little time as home until University and make my plans to get out and escape.

Appetite is getting better. Eaten three square meals today for the first time in a week or two. In nine days I go to Reading to run the bar for a fortnight.

I'm definitely a lot skinnier than I would like.