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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    Reread my answer to PoVG who made the exact same observation a few posts back.



    You're confusing legitimacy with power.
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    Well, you yourself have tried in many ways to make 7/10 appear less gruesome. But you know what? That doesn't even matter. It does not matter because the damage done on the day is not the worst thing...
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    That is an odd question. I think you supporting the Palestinians in Gaza should involve denouncing Hamas.



    They are a terrorist group that has been ruling Gaza. A rule that is based on the...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    You quote my post, but you don't actually address its content. Which part of it don't you agree with?
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    Hamas aren't your regular terrorist group operating from the interstices of an otherwise normal, peaceful society. They are a terrorist regime with a military engaging in warfare. Of course if you...
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    This is a transcript in English of a report on the protests at Amsterdam University



    I think that illustrates student protests quite well. There are probably decent people there who just want...
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    There seem to be quite a few who do not actually know themselves that that is what they're doing. They've managed to convince themselves that what has been happening since 7/10 is essentially a...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    If you quote me, please ensure that what you say next has some relation to it. I did, and it wasn't about that question.




    You make it sound as if this could have been some sort of surgical...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    You mean you did not say what you meant to say. Don't put that on me. Be more careful with your words.





    This to me seems to be part of Kyriakos' considerations.
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    It is actually. That is why so many Western governments are hesitant to condemn Israel. If you mean popular opinion, then maybe yes. But the thing with popular opinion is that it says things without...
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    It seems to be based on the misunderstanding that there are rules that dictate that war itself has to be 'proportional'. But the proportionality we're discussing exists within the context of a war...
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    Ridiculous laws aside, what should determine who is expected to go to what public toilet? The current 'standard' seems to be 'The one that matches the cis-gendered variant others perceive you to...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    To revisit something I said just a few posts back:



    So of course I'd have issues if 2 million palestinians in Gaza died. That would mean large scale attacks on non-military targets. Call me a...
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    Even if you were to interpret the conflict as an 80 year old war, there was nothing about 7/10 that can be described as legitimate warfare. There were no military targets where Hamas attacked and it...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    Whether what Israel is doing is effective is obviously debatable, but the principle that a country has the right to strike back isn't.



    The best effort expected of combatants to avoid harm to...
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    I'm sorry, but I cannot respond point by point if only because it consists of statements that do not seem to follow logically from another. So I'll just have to guess the following addresses what you...
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    I think criticism of Israel is fine. What I don't think is fine is gratuitous criticism and that is pretty much all I'm hearing from pro-palestinian voices. The fact that to call for Israel to leave...
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    That is true. It does however require that members of a group are being 'destroyed' because they are members of that group. That requires some sort of planned action on an ideological basis.

    I...
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    Sticky: Re: Townhall - Curial Commentary and Chat

    As far as I'm concerned, the same reasons apply that have been making elections a farce. With so few participants these awards are too personal to live up to their name.
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    You say it is a shame that we focus on semantics only to dive straight back into that same semantic discussion. If you really regretted it you could have opted for a term that is less speculative as...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    Well to insist on using the word genocide, not because it is true, but because it is more hurtful is pretty childish really.
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    It is obviously particularly aggravating to Jewish people to be accused of genocide. That is the reason why it is used. Part of the information war.

    The sad reality is civilian lives have not...
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    Which tells us a something about the human condition and nothing about the existence of divinity.
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    Now there's a card you can only play once. After all, it eliminates not just your opponent, but also yourself.
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    I take it you're addressing sumskilz? Because if it was me, that would imply you're thinking I'm counting the IDF as a "source I believe has a reputation for truthfulness to uphold". That would be a...
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    "Seek and ye shall find". That's pretty much where the ammo for this discussion is coming from these days, wouldn't you say? I've actually found myself on the verge of getting sucked into the...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    You mean that there is basically no war in Gaza, just the IDF wreaking havoc on civilians and civilian infrastructure with no enemy in sight?




    By whom. Not in popular opinion. My impression...
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    I do not presume to know what's going on better than those media do.




    The media regularly mention 'fighting', so there is actual combat going on, but they report very little about the scale...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    Ok, I see you're not actually replying to what I said. That's fine. You do you.
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    There's always an information war.
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    Well it is clear Israel is losing the information war. In the Western media a pattern has been established Israel is leveling buildings and hospitals and gratuitously slaughtering civilians in...
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    Re: Lock him up! Former PotUS Trump indicted

    Do they though? Or would they happily make that sacrifice for the Great Leader?
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    TxbIU0X-lCI
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    Re: [Discussion] Curia future

    I'd be happy to discuss that, but I think that belongs in the 'State of the Union' thread.

    Concerning the Tribunal, I think it is a great idea in theory. I have serious doubts about any kind of...
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    Re: [Discussion] Curia future

    Support, so that's pretty much an absolute majority right there :laughter:





    I think I've said earlier that VoNC's and elected positions should stay or go together. So assuming there's no...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    @sumskilz

    I can agree with that summary for the most part. Specifically regarding the issue of 'control' though, that is obviously a relative concept in a war like this. I'd say (and I get the...
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    Sticky: Re: What games are you currently playing?

    Pandemic: Fall of Rome
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    Genocide is when the physical destruction of (parts of) an ethnical, racial or religious group is a goal in itself. Evidently this is near impossible to prove for areas where active combat is taking...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    As far as I can tell, it pretty much is not allowing NGO's to operate in Gaza to provide aid. Not that it would enough to just passively permit it.

    Not that any of that amounts to Genocide. But,...
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