More factions, more fun?

[Aurelius Maximus]

Hi all, i wanted to make a thread to ask the community how they feel towards adding more and more factions to the game.

Some people say that no new factions should be added but i ask why not?? the more, the better in my opinion! more variety, more historical accuracy, and more factions to play as means you're more likely to play as your ancestors, lol. So why not, bring them on! My most requested factions would be:

Aragon
Kievan Rus
Switzerland
Luthiania
Bohemia
Ireland
Teutons
Templars
more islamic factions...

[Kiki52]

I'd only like more factions if they are very different from each other unit wise. If they are just mostly carbon copies of another faction, I think it is a waste. They need to play differently, and look quite different instead of the same with other factions.

[kelvintyk]

I voted for more factions....but only if they are included in a bigmap. Otherwise, too much crowding. Maneuvaring becomes a problem and its too difficult to complete the campaign.

[tommo_312]

Hi all, i wanted to make a thread to ask the community how they feel towards adding more and more factions to the game.

Some people say that no new factions should be added but i ask why not?? the more, the better in my opinion! more variety, more historical accuracy, and more factions to play as means you're more likely to play as your ancestors, lol. So why not, bring them on! My most requested factions would be:

Aragon
Kievan Rus
Switzerland
Luthiania
Bohemia
Ireland
Teutons
Templars
more islamic factions...

i think Aragon
Kievan Rus
Switzerland
Lithunania
Teutonic Knights
Templar Knights
Hospitaller Knights

(go east)

Kwarehzam Shahdom (sp.)
Seljuks
Timurids (playable)
Golden Horde (playable)

[Goudvinger]

I would want at least twice the amount of factions, and more regions.

[Kalos]

Same here, twice the factions twice the regions.

[Garnier]

A couple of new/changed factions would be perfect.

Add:
Bohemia
Burghundy (another faction in france)

Switch:
Portugal to Aragon
Milan to Genoa

And then add a few provinces for the new factions, and remove some from middle east (there are simply too many down there, and I wouldn't want more mid-east factions).

[tommo_312]

...And then add a few provinces for the new factions, and remove some from middle east (there are simply too many down there, and I wouldn't want more mid-east factions)....

eh?
theres not enough down there!

[kelvintyk]

Theres only 3 islamic factions (excluding mongols and timurids) and that is alot???? I'd say the europeans. They got tons of factions already.

[Roshak]

Lol I'm the only one who voted no

There are plenty of factions I think, but not enough diversity or uniqueness to them to be especially memorable. Some factions just feel too much like duplicates.

[Kalos]

All of the Italian factions seem almost like carbon copies. But I don't play as them anyway so I don't care.

[Germanicus75]

I'm certainly in favour of new factions so long as modders are able to keep the campaign AI development balanced. Too many new factions or provinces may bog the game down or make it too easy to make money and win the game.
Stainless Steel has added Templar faction and will add in the next release Kievan Rus and Aragonese I believe. So far the mod owner King Kong has balanced the new factions extremely well.

Aside from these new SS factions, I'd also like to see Flanders, Ireland and another Islamic faction added to the game.

[repo]

I think they need to work on the current game with patchs before they do anything else.

[redmanPH]

lol garnier, islamic factions are waaay too few and underrated, if ever CA will add more factions i vote for more action in north africa and the middle east. you want many, look at the differently colored map of europe in medieval lol )

[mightyfenrir]

Yeah, I agree... you'd have to make the map bigger or just create fewer factions.

[Shaka]

Who needs more factions for fun???
Just play with first tier units only
Peasants, peasants archers, mounted seargents, town militia and ballistas

[Garnier]

Well currently the muslim faction skins are horribly ugly. If the saracens for example, looked nice, and were mostly just guys with turbans and white/tan clothes with scimitars/bows/spears, it would be cool. But at least their most common units are very ugly and so I hate to fight them.

Granted, the europeans could do with a bit less colour as well, but somehow I don't mind them as much.

[Majorfatso]

Medieval 2 doesn't need more carbon copy factions it need's more diversity but if these new factions have a real sense of diversity then go ahead and make them as I know I certainly will be downloading them if they are ever put into a mod. Speaking of mods the lack of diversity is a big factor why you get so many mods being made.


Mods like RTW's EB are pretty much popular because there more diverse and they don't make everyone look the same.

[Lord LeRey]

Yes, more factions are needed. With more factions, more buffer states can be created, more complex alliances, less ultra-poweful stastes (since there will be less rebels to take advantage from). Of course, some diversity is needed.

My requested factions would be:

Acquitaine and Burgundy (to reflect even better France complex situation of the era)
Castillo y Leon; Aragon. again, to better reflect spain.
Bohemia
Serbia, Croatia
Armenia Kingdom of Cilicia
Georgia
Cummans
Sweden, Norway
Kievan Rus, Novogrod
Abbsaid Caliphate
Kwaresham
Lithuania

This is taking in account mods that start on 1080. I did some research, trying to get into modding...

[Funnage]

I say add more Eastern Europe and Islamic factions. Western Europe is pretty much set already, but the East is just left for who ever can send out armies the fastest making it no fun. Lately Poland has been #1 in my campaigns because they can grab alot of territory unopposed throughout the whole campaign, if Poland doesn't make it out of the starting blocks, Russia takes the cake. I want to see some action in Eastern Europe so adding Lithuania, and make it pagan, would add some flavour.

I'm not knowing at all about Islamic factions at that time, but adding 2-3 to the region would really spice things up.

Adding anything else to Western Europe would be pointless considering all that is already going on there in vanilla.

More factions would be more fun because then expansion would be difficult and alliances and politics would be key. Thunder rolling through a region just isn't fun... after awhile...