Russian - Chinese conflict.

[Medieval Lord 10]

i never heard the story about russian and china war not even on book. are they any film or book tell about that? russian and china very close but never war?

[mocker]

1. There was some war beetween China and Russia, I think, but that was aaaaages ago.
2. Consult your local English tutor (unless you have a reading/writing disorder, in which case I feel like a complete scumbag. Again).

[Medieval Lord 10]

yes i am have bad english languange, i only know little. but i think i can read english languange little maybe. i never heard about russ and china guys why they become so peaceful.

[ML101]

I know during the Sino-Soviet Split they had a border clash issue resulting in small fighting

[Farnan]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-So...order_conflict

[Medieval Lord 10]

what? only like that? 800 chinese death and soviet 60.. only in 1960?

[Da Skinna]

Too bad, I'd love to see the Red Bear and the Red Dragon go at it.

[Luftwaffels]

Well Tom Clancey wrote "The Bear and the Dragon" a fictional war between the two.

[Maximilian I]

Actually i saw a documentary on a russian channel about a conflict with china. It all began with dimplomatic negotiations in 1970 about some land near china and mounted in a one week full war, but then the two nations decided to stop hostilities and resume diplomatic negotiations. Sorry but i don't remember what the conlict was called

also there were always border clashes between the two

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Nerchinsk

[EDITED]

I think here you can find an information about the conflict i was talking about

http://stinet.dtic.mil/oai/oai?&verb...fier=ADA031749

[Shaun]

Moved to the VV, its more appropriate here.

[hellheaven1987]

Mmm... there is no "direct" conflict between China and Russia. However, there were several skirmishs between these two duirng second half of 1800s and first half of 1900s.

Well, it is interesting that Russia is the first European power that signed an international treaty with Qing Dynastry, and this event actually has been written in some Chinese novels (I think Chinese kidnapped a Russian princess for that).

[Medieval Lord 10]

wow that was amazing kidnaping russian princess.. russian have beauty girl must be married with chinese emperor, i am right? hmmm the conflict only small war i see.. but why only small war not big war? they must been cool bro?

[hellheaven1987]

I am not sure the early reasons, but Japan is a major reason why Russia could not expand in 1900s.

[crazyorc]

yeah, Japan defeated Russia in the north-east of China in the end of 19th century, which marked the emergence of Japan and the fall of Russian empire. anyway, i think the war did good to the liberation of east-asians, because they recieved the message that the white people could be actualy defeated by other ethnics.

[hellheaven1987]

yeah, Japan defeated Russia in the north-east of China in the end of 19th century, which marked the emergence of Japan and the fall of Russian empire. anyway, i think the war did good to the liberation of east-asians, because they recieved the message that the white people could be actualy defeated by other ethnics.

Sorry, it was 20th century. 1904~1905 Russo-Japanese War, and irony the war was fighting on Manchuria (part of China) and Siberia. This war also showed the bad habit of Japanese (attack others without declare war first), and more irony Britain was strongly support Japanese.

By the way, I find Russian girls are quite attractive, but it depends.

[hellheaven1987]

Find a paragraph about the war between Russian Empire and Qing Dynastry.

"At the same time, the Emperor was faced with the Russian advance from the north. The Qing Dynasty and the Russian Empire fought along the Sahaliyan ula (Amur, or Heilongjiang) Valley region in 1650s, which ended with a Qing victory. The Russians invaded the northern frontier again in 1680s. After series of battles and negotiations, the two empires signed the Treaty of Nerchinsk in 1689 giving China the Amur valley and fixing a border." Wiki, Kangxi Emperor

The Emperor in this paragraph is Kangxi, the second Emperor of Qing Dynastry. During his reign he also conquered Tibet and started a war in North-West of China.

Irony, Machurian (in Chinese eyes they were barbarians at that time) conquered half of modern China.

[crazyorc]

Qing includs the whole modern China plus outer Mongolia...in fact,although Russian settlers were resisted by Qing in the beginning, Russian empire robbed the late Qing of much land, 1.7 millian square km..

[hellheaven1987]

Qing includs the whole modern China plus outer Mongolia...in fact,although Russian settlers were resisted by Qing in the beginning, Russian empire robbed the late Qing of much land, 1.7 millian square km..

Yap, I remember it is around North region of China up to Manchuria. Most areas did not go to direct control of Russia, but they had solo trading right in those area.

Anyway, the area Russia had were probably the poorest in China except Manchuria, so no big deal.

[jankren]

I think should there be a conventional war (No nukes) between Russia and China, the Chinese could probably march into Moscow at the end of the war.

[hellheaven1987]

I think should there be a conventional war (No nukes) between Russia and China, the Chinese could probably march into Moscow at the end of the war.

Mmm... I doubt that. Russian still have technology and training superior than Chinese, however Chinese have manpower. I believe if there is such war, the battlefield would probably stuck in Siberia forever.