The age old question

[The Super Pope]

Does anyone else find that if you look at Melboys avatar quickly, while you're scrolling down, it looks like the Pink Panther bumming something?

[Thehouse1]

a heated debate...............

[Axe-Battler]

That's nonesense! The ninjas would never attack head on, they would use throwing stars or such against the smelly pirates/vikings and kill them before they even had time to notice. Besides it's not about weight, even a pretty noobie ninja should be able to move swiftly enough to be able to dodge the attacks and use the vikings weight against him

well, the thing is it does not matter how fast you move...

in fist fights, people get hit, in combat people get hit.

There is not blocking, or karate kicking and dodging and "secret moves".
Even bruce lee said this...

in a fight people get hit, and you don't block or dodge, you ATTACK or lose.

People will often times think speed and skill beat brute strength and size, which is a hollywood misconception.

If you are significantly outstrengthed or outsized by your opponent, you will not win.

Now if I'm 170 pounds, I simply will not beat a 300 pound man no matter how much training I have...unless he's just morbidly obese.
If I took on a 220 pound man, +50 pounds of me, I could possibly win, as I have alot of physical training, but if that man is very well trained as well then no I will not win...his weight would be too much for me.

This is why they have weight classes.

And again, a viking weighed 200 pounds... most orientals are barely 140 pounds.

Some pirates, if they were closer in size to the ninja, then sure the ninja could win.

Now if you are to discuss which would win between weapons, it would vary I suppose, pirates were just as clever as ninjas, they were some of the greatest tacticianers of all time. They outsmarted trained militants all the time.

If you put a ninja with a sword against a pirate with a sword, then who knows?

[Roshak]

Pirates.

Captain Jack Sparrow anyone?

[Gary88]

a ninja would stow away then slit their throats whilst the sleep


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if i was a ninja and kiera knightly was the pirate i would let her beat me off...I MEAN UP, BEAT ME UP

[~Beren~]

if i was a ninja and kiera knightly was the pirate i would let her beat me off...I MEAN UP, BEAT ME UP

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+rep for that lol

I wouldn't mind to get beat off...erm...up by her myself

[Gary88]

i would however give kiera a good bowl of rice (as a ninja), she could do with some meat on her or her flimsy arm might snap from all that beating...up

[Axe-Battler]

you guys talking about the girl from pirates of the caribbean?

She ain't that great, she's too skinny, and her face is only decent.

[crazyj]

Clearly ninjas. They can sneak up and take out the pirates quietly, plus they have sake, automatic crossbows, shuriken, and lasers.

[Gary88]

yeah but as pirates go...its her or roger the cabin boy

[mrjesushat]

I have deleted some junk. Please don't degrade the discussion.

You're funny. "Please don't degrade the discussion."

Indeed.

Anyway, it's pirates, hands down. No ninja could handle a pirate. The Ninja is a ninny in black PJs. He's a trumped-up pseudo badass invented so dorky, pimply-faced whiners can act like they know some secret martial arts in the hopes of staving off a serious ass-beating.

No less, the ninjas couldn't handle a ship, so they'd never get close enough to the pirates to do any harm. It's all well and good throwing smoke bombs and shuriken, but this is useless when your ship is on fire and cannon balls are tearing your buddies in half.

In conclusion, Ninjas suck, even through their silly little hoods.

[Glade]

Its pirates hands down. How would a ninja board an enemy ship, hide until sundown, stick to the shadows and kill a crew of 120 people without getting caught and dieing a painful death? Plus a ship MOVES when in the water. Its hard to move around until you get your sea legs. This negates the agility of the ninja. The only time a ninja could possibly win is if the pirates were at a pub celebrating and were drunk and s*&t.

[~Beren~]

The Ninja is a ninny in black PJs. He's a trumped-up pseudo badass invented so dorky, pimply-faced whiners can act like they know some secret martial arts in the hopes of staving off a serious ass-beating.

I hate it when dumb over-dramatic animes make a negative stereotype about ninjas AND Asians.

No ninja could handle a pirate.

How so? In a hand-to-hand situation, ninjas with their professionally made katanas and skill can handle a pirate. I'm not saying they will win all the time. But they won't LOSE all the time.

In Japanese culture, they are usually trained for dangerous and high-risk stealth clandestine missions very similar to those of the modern day Special Forces, like the US Navy SEALS.

They weren't just made to be "badass", they WERE already "badass' What other REAL SKILL can pirates do other than some minor sword-buckling before hiding behind their cowardly long-ranged artillery and ships.

Sure the ninjas hide in shadow but at least they don't run away and go "na na can't touch me hahahaha ARRRGH."

Their roles may have included sabotage, espionage, scouting, and assassination missions as a way to destabilize and cause social chaos in an enemy country or to an opposing ruler.

Can pirates do all those? What do they do? Drink, say ARRRGH, blow up people, drink, say ARRRGH more?

Ninjas suck, even through their silly little hoods.

And peg-legs aren't silly?

[Thehouse1]

a peg leg is a common mis conception about pirates

[MadBurgerMaker]

Clearly the pirates would kick ninja ass. They would decimate the waterwalking ninjas with grape before the poor schmucks were even able to get on board. And...damn...could you imagine the slaughter while the guys in PJs were trying to climb up over the rails between bouts of seasickness? Good God.

By the time the remaining ninjas got on board, it would just be a matter of overwhelming them with sheer numbers. I'm sure ninjas were a bunch of badasses in individual combat, but really...how badass are they going to be when faced with 30-1 odds in a rather confined space?

Now...robot ninjas.....that's an entirely different deal there.

[iudas]

Ninja are boring. Pirates were dumb rapists, but at leasts they were some fun.

[Locky]

Pirates were around much longer then ninjas.

[iudas]

Pirates were around much longer then ninjas.

But people only think of the 17th century, Caribbean pirates.

[Duke_of_Bavaria]

well, the thing is it does not matter how fast you move...

in fist fights, people get hit, in combat people get hit.

There is not blocking, or karate kicking and dodging and "secret moves".
Even bruce lee said this...

You failed to include one factor in your equation, Mr. Lee wasn't a ninja!! =)

In my next life I want to be born a Japanese ninja!

[teh.king]

ninjas ftw