Israel vs palestine another one to save other threads :O

[Chaigidel]

Im guilty of off topic posting im here to fix that by offering a forum for us to each beat our heads against each others brick walls.

Jews vs Arabs = Jews Win

Palestine does not exist-- it is a propaganda fabrication so that arabs could try to take back jerusalem without drawing international pressure.

Israel vs any country in the ME= Israel hands asses to all enemy

ok those are my positions.

[Miraj]

Whats the point of debating with you? When you get pressured you simply accuse the other side of antisemtism.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...97#post1992597

[Marcus II]

Although I disagree with mirage41 regarding just about every political topic, he has a point.

Your post has little meaning. It's not calling to discuss a topic, but only an open invitation to flames.

[Gary88]

chiagidel if you can find the thread where you me and rush limbaugh were talking about this i put a reasonable history of the palestine saga in one of my posts, if you can remember what thread that was i will repost it

[Eranshahr]

Israel vs Iran- Bye bye Isarel- although it will never happen. And I agree with Mirage, when you feel pressed you call others racist. I hope you will change this time if you want a polite debate with NO personal insults.

[Chaigidel]

just like when you get pressured you say reported and excuse yourself ?


as I stated many times I made an estimation based on limited info which I stated clearly in every post was probably wrong, and that I have no real way of knowing anything about you guys.

but It was a bad move on my part because it allowed such hollow focus on non subjects such as indignance about being called racist.

but I do enjoy righteous indignance.

[Eranshahr]

I never said reported, that was Mirage.

I say many times I am sorry, becaue that is how I speak, I speak politely as much as I can, especially in serious debates. The limited info you have gotten is nowhere near racist from my or Mirage's side? you only called us racists because we both wanted ONE Palestine and ONE Israel, while you just wanted ONE Israel and DEAD arabs.

You can't deny not saying that you want dead arabs, you said it is better to kill them when they are young, I hope that was because you were angry and you weren't serious, here it comes I am sorry, but if you was serious, maybe it is time to think how it would be with dead American children instead, would that be good? dead children?

[Chaigidel]

No I want No war, at all ever--


but you are takiing comments I made about war-- I believe war is absolutely without ethics so anything is acceptable to win.

palestine does not deserve to exist by the same rationale that turkey doesnt owe constantinople to the greeks.-- it is a political tool to attack the jews without drawing heat on all the arab country--

the arabs dont want a part of Israel they want EVERY part of Israel, the jews are much more reasonable so I support them.

yes children die all the time by all kinds of horrible means and we have no power to stop it, children of all nations--its awful when anyone dies at all, especially by violence but that is the idea; war has to be so horrible to your enemy that he doesnt want to fight, thats the theory of war.

[Eranshahr]

the arabs have accepted to take the Gaza strip and west bank, and leave Israel. But HAMAS has said it won't recognize Israel, not destroy it. Fatah n the other hand has recognized israel and is currently recieving money from Israel.

All states should be allowed to exist. this war has been fought since 1948, it must be a time where it ends.

[Poisoner]

Israel FTW

[Gerin]

The theory of war is that you beat them quickly to minimize casulties on both sides.

[Poisoner]

Israel needs to win the war by attrition by killing all the Palestinians. No Palestinians, no Palestine.

[Chaigidel]

that just isnt acceptable, but it would be a total solution just not workable---

what should happen is that all the palestinians go back to Jordan and stay.

[Gary88]

what should happen is that all the palestinians go back to Jordan and stay.

when you say go back...you realise they lived in palestine to start with

[Marcus II]

when you say go back...you realize Lizards once owned the earth too

[Chaigidel]

I say go back only because Israel won the land in war as we have all agreed is a proper way to attain land ( with the hagia thread )

so none can support the false state of palestine the jews won the land fair and square ( with war)

I want to stay modern you all are the ones who want land given back to those who do not own it anymore

[Gary88]

I say go back only because Israel won the land in war as we have all agreed is a proper way to attain land ( with the hagia thread )

well thats still not going back that would be going for the first time. also whilst some of us realise that things that happened 555 years ago should be left alone things that happened within living history are perhaps still open to debate

[Chaigidel]

if Israel is open to debate then all lands are open to debate, simple as that unless you wish duplicity.

[Gary88]

strangely i go on each cases individual merits

[Chaigidel]

So what are the merits of the Jordanians getting Israeli land?