Darfur - if you don't know what to do blame the Jews

[cegorach]

Abdel Rahim Mohammed Hussajn - Sudanese defence minister in his interview for Saudi newspaper OKAZ found the guilty ones for the entire conflict - 24 Jewish organisations which support the rebels and fuel the conflict.

***my source is in Polish so I will not quote it***


I am sure that many readers will buy this nonsense out there...


In addition he described the local WAR as a minor conflict between farmers and cattle herders - YEAH just like in western movies.

I am waiting for more revelations of this sort - perhaps will enlighten us showing that in fact it is nothing more than a farmer protest blown out of proportions by 'imperialist media'...

[Gary88]

first Jesus now Darfur...WHAT WILL THEY DO NEXT

[Eranshahr]

Well I don't think you can blame the Jews for it, But certainly I wouldn't be suprised if the Israeli govt is supporting the Darfur militamen. After all Sudan and Israel aren't so good friends.

[JP226]

europe should fix this mess

[Eranshahr]

Not our Buisness, Well maybe the UK or France. But the rest has nothing with it to do, the only thing we do is to send them money and supplies. More we can't do.

IN fact there is an Arab Leauge, but it seems to serve the wishes of Egypt and Saudi arabia instead of Iraq, Lebanon and sudan.

[Hansa]

Not our Buisness, Well maybe the UK or France. But the rest has nothing with it to do, the only thing we do is to send them money and supplies. More we can't do.

IN fact there is an Arab Leauge, but it seems to serve the wishes of Egypt and Saudi arabia instead of Iraq, Lebanon and sudan.

The colonial European rule of Africa can be blamed for a lot of problems, but an ethnic conflict between Arabs and black Africans, I don't think so. I would not blame either the British or French for this mess, it is entirely not Europe's business, as you said.

As for fixing it, I am not sure what the west should do. No soldiers on the ground though, a UN mission should mostly consist of African troops. I have lost all faith in western soldiers occupying lands in culturally different areas of the world of late. This mess should be solved within the UN, something which will be very difficult with Russia and especially China in the Security Council.

Should a strong resolution be passed on it though, I see no problems with the EU countries using their airforces to tactically vaporize the Sudanese army and Janjaweed (sp?) militia, something the air power of any modern large Western country should be easily capable of.

As for the Jews being to blame for the whole situation: . Not a very elegant reply I know, but the question hardly needs a large consistent contra analysis to be answered.

[s.rwitt]

a UN mission should mostly consist of African troops.

Sometimes in Africa the "peacekeepers" end up being just as bad as the militia they are trying to stop.


I know it sounds rough, but Africa is a quagmire, has always been and will always be. It's no ones fault just the way it has always been, it just went from one tribe conquering and enslaving another to countries doing the same. Its just the way Africa is.

[STReetSamurai]

A Jew broke into my house last night and hid my wallet in my left pocket, usually in my right. They persecute me in such ways all the time, and I know its them, couldn't be anyone else.

[Kiljan Arslan]

I want to know if Sudan is in fact just like Iraq, ? What I mean by that is a nation that was created with different ethnic, and relgious groups who really don't get along.

This blame the Jews thing is what any Muslim leader says when things go bad, just ask Ahmidinejad, or the Saudis.

[STReetSamurai]

Thats not Sudan thats Africa!

[jankren]

If only the Brits gave power to the Africans instead of the Arabs when they granted independence to the Sudan ...

[Kiljan Arslan]

So true Street Samuri.

[wilpuri]

Does anyone know anything about the validity of these allegations? As in are the rebels supported by Israeli or Jewish organizations?

[Kiljan Arslan]

Back in the 1960s the Israilies did support a rebelion in southern Sudan with arms.

[The Knight 2100]

I want to know if Sudan is in fact just like Iraq, ? What I mean by that is a nation that was created with different ethnic, and relgious groups who really don't get along.

This blame the Jews thing is what any Muslim leader says when things go bad, just ask Ahmidinejad, or the Saudis.

Sudan as it is today is the creation of the Anglo-Egyptian colonial system when it was given independence in the 1950's. Before then the area of modern-day Sudan had been divided amongst a number of different countries and ethnic groups. There are significant religious and ethnic differences between the regions of Sudan and there is a history of bad relations between them.

Northern, central the coastal area of Sudan is inhabited mostly by Muslims, and I think the majority of the people in this area are Arabs. There are also a number of nomadic tribes that live here as well. The western part of Sudan, Darfur, is inhabited by Christians, Muslims and Pagans. This area has a history of being its own independent country separate from central Sudan. Southern Sudan is inhabited mostly by Black Africans and the majority of the people are Christian or Pagan.

Southern Sudan was historically raided by Arab Muslims from Northern Sudan as a source of slaves. For this reason, there are a lot of bad feelings between northerners and southerners. During colonial times, Christian missionaries were discouraged from working in northern Sudan where the British promoted Islam, but encouraged to work in southern Sudan. The British also ruled southern Sudan and northern Sudan differently, emphasizing a distinct ethnic identity in the south. Differences and tensions between southern and northern Sudan existed long before the British came but the British helped to make things worse.

Since independence the government of the Sudan has been dominated by Muslims and has persecuted Christians, Pagans and Black Africans in the Sudan and the slave trade has resumed. There have been years of conflict as Southern Sudan and Darfur have both tried to gain their independence from Sudan. (or at least regional autonomy)

Today the government of Sudan backs Arab Muslims militias that perpetrate genocide in Darfur in an attempt to turn the country into an Arab Muslim state.

[enoch]

Africa, even northern Africa, is a blight.
Islam in the ME = ditto.

[PointOfViewGun]

We can blame the Europeans and not just UK and France, some other countries from Europe also. They colonized Africa and tried to create countries that has tens of ethnic groups where the unity was not established. After they've left the continent opposing tribes fall in to war. It's kinda like if forces from all around the world marches in to Europe and change all the borders so in the new countries there are French, English, German or Swedish. After the occupying forces march out there are no strong central government so every one falls in to civil war with each other. It wasn't like that before the Europeans went into the continent.

[enoch]

We can blame the Europeans and not just UK and France, some other countries from Europe also. They colonized Africa and tried to create countries that has tens of ethnic groups where the unity was not established. After they've left the continent opposing tribes fall in to war. It's kinda like if forces from all around the world marches in to Europe and change all the borders so in the new countries there are French, English, German or Swedish. After the occupying forces march out there are no strong central government so every one falls in to civil war with each other. It wasn't like that before the Europeans went into the continent.

You mean like the Romans did. **** happens, it is never a valid excuse for barbarity unless the entire world has fallen.

Africa is a blight and was a blight long before europeans ever set foot on it.

[The Knight 2100]

Yes the argument that Africa is a mess today because of the Europeans is nonsense because there were wars, disease and slavery in Africa long before the Europeans ever came to Africa.

[Kiljan Arslan]

True but Imperialism hardly Helped the situation.