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    As Russia flexes its foreign policy muscles against the West and President Putin enjoys record approval ratings, the Kremlin is turning its attention to schools to instil a new sense of nationalism in children.

    Two new manuals for teachers have been accused of glossing over the horrors of the Soviet Union and of including propaganda to promote Mr Putin’s vision of a strong state.

    One, for social studies teachers, presents as fact Mr Putin’s view that the Soviet collapse was “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century”. It describes the United States as bent on creating a global empire and determined to isolate Russia from its neighbours.


    Many of those behind the second book, a history of Russia from 1945 to 2006, have close links to the Kremlin. Its final chapter is titled Sovereign Democracy, a term coined by a key Kremlin aide, Vladislav Surkov, as an ideological justification for Mr Putin’s authoritarian rule.

    The chapter quotes Mr Surkov repeatedly and praises Mr Putin as the man responsible for “practically every significant deed” in Russia since 2000, when he became President.

    Mr Putin’s most controversial actions are shown in an approving light, including the destruction of the Yukos oil company and the imprisonment of its chairman, Mikhail Khodorkovsky. The book describes this as an “unambiguous message” to business to “obey the law, pay your taxes and don’t try to put yourselves above the Government”, adding: “They got the message.”

    Mr Putin’s support for Viktor Yanukovych in Ukraine’s rigged presidential election of 2004 is also defended. Mass protests in the Orange revolution eventually brought his pro-Western rival, Viktor Yushchenko, to power, but the manual states: “Yanukovych was the only candidate capable of truly resisting Yushchenko. So Russia’s choice was clear.”

    The book describes Josef Stalin as “the most successful Soviet leader ever” and dismisses the prison labour camps and mass purges as a necessary part of his drive to make the country great. The manuals are intended to serve as the basis for developing new textbooks in schools next year, though Education Ministry officials insisted that they would not be compulsory.

    Mr Putin gave them his seal of approval at a conference he hosted for teachers at his presidential dacha last month. He described Stalin’s Great Purge of 1937, in which 1.5 million people were imprisoned and 700,000 killed, as terrible “but in other countries even worse things happened”. Discounting the Soviet Union’s long history of oppression, he said: “We had no other black pages, such as Nazism, for instance.”

    Leonid Polyakov, editor of the social studies manual, told Mr Putin that Russia was “disarmed ideologically” after the Soviet collapse, leaving other countries to judge whether it was a democracy. He said: “We are developing a national ideology that represents the vision of ourselves as a nation, as Russians, a vision of our own identity. Teachers will then be able to incorporate this national ideology, this vision, into their practical work in a normal way and use it to develop a civic and patriotic position.”

    Pavel Danilin, who wrote the chapter on Sovereign Democracy, told The Times that it explained the “core transformation” of Russia under Mr Putin. “We understand that the only guarantee for our democracy is our sovereignty, our strong state, our strong army, our strong economy and our strong nation,” he said. “It is not an ideology. It is just common sense. And my intention was to explain that common sense to teachers.”

    Mr Danilin, 30, is a projects manager at the Effective Policy Foundation, a think-tank with close links to the Kremlin. He was more blunt about his intentions on his web blog in response to criticism from teachers that much of the book was simply Kremlin propaganda. “You will teach children in line with the books you are given and in the way Russia needs,” he wrote, adding that schools had to “clear the filth and if it doesn’t work, then clear it by force”.

    Alexander Filippov, who edited the history manual, is deputy head of another research institute linked to the Kremlin. He told The Times that the book was a response to the poor quality of existing textbooks and that “sovereign democracy is not proposed as the national ideology for schools”.

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    I'm surprised these are not in the textbooks already.

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    I'm just waiting for Putin to hit the big red button (as illustrated in the Simpsons) which will pop back up the Berlin Wall, change all Russian flags to Soviet and resurrect Lenin.

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    Governments rewriting history.
    No.
    I won't believe it.
    Ever read a British history textbook Ferrets?
    There is a reason that the word "story" is included in the discussed abstraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enoch View Post
    Governments rewriting history.
    No.
    I won't believe it.
    Ever read a British history textbook Ferrets?
    There is a reason that the word "story" is included in the discussed abstraction.
    I've never read that concentration camps in the Boer War were 'necessary'.

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    Since it is best to stay contemporary on such a subject, and the Brits post WW2 have been better at not rewriting their history too blatantly, and as I want to use an ironic retort as per usual,

    I do believe the British government still justifies imprisoning germans in SA during WW2.

    And, of course, there are thousands of better examples that come to mind, accounts of the Indian Rebellion are always a good place to start.

    Or justifications of Chamberlain.

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    Every country presents history from their POV. On a side note, that's why I can't stand "academia," their knowledge is always subjective.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    What the ****? Truth is not ****ing subjective!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP226 View Post
    Every country presents history from their POV.
    True, but not every country has his history books (directly) influenced by a political party.



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    On the subject of historical revisionism, you should see the 1st grade children's "social studies" textbooks that describe how Columbus and the Taíno/Arawak/Caribs all got along and were all great friends.

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    ^^^i always grew up believing the same thing ferrets. but the truth will always be considered subjective to the people who dont want to believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter_makoy View Post
    ^^^i always grew up believing the same thing ferrets. but the truth will always be considered subjective to the people who dont want to believe it.
    Heh, if they don't like it it's liberal bias I suppose.

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    What was that saying that Wuhl had on assume the position,

    "when legend becomes fact, print the legend"

    They haven't changed the facts. They haven't said the Soviets didn't enact horrors. "the greatest geopolitical disaster" is up to anyone's interpretation. and what does “practically every significant deed” mean? And whether or not Josef Stalin was successful is indeed up to interpretation. Facts aren't being changed, it's the interpretation of those facts. That is the most important part of history and that is purely subjective.

    Why did Lee launch Pickett's charge? I could say he was sick and wanted the war over, or I could say it was a well laid out plan of launching 15,000 supported by cav assault in the union rear and the largest artillery bombardment to date against 5000 federals.

    Why did the Americans drop the bomb? We know they dropped it but was it just another extension of firebombing to kill more japs or was it a way to spare lives? Why did the brits rape and pillage africa? Did they rape and pillage Africa.

    All subjective.
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    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    Well the EU introduces EU-friendly textbooks, that make it seem as if European history would ultimately, gradually and unstoppably arrive at the point it is today. Such linear views of history can be found in pretty much any country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    What the ****? Truth is not ****ing subjective!

    Truth, as an absolute in a world without certainties of such abstract concepts, is one of the most subjective ideas in existence.




    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    True, but not every country has his history books (directly) influenced by a political party.
    Name one which doesn't?



    Quote Originally Posted by Boeing View Post
    On the subject of historical revisionism, you should see the 1st grade children's "social studies" textbooks that describe how Columbus and the Taíno/Arawak/Caribs all got along and were all great friends.
    The glossing over of the horror inflicted on the native peoples of the entire Americas, from the Bering strait to the Cape Horn, is one of the most impressive rewrites / look the other ways in recent history.

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    One thing I'd have like to seen mentioned in my US history Class was the attempt by Industrialists to overthrow FDR, however its always glossed over. Probally because peolpe would rather have it not known that America almost became a fascist dictatorship.

    Also My textbook I beleived considered american intervention on internal Latin AMerican afairs, to be america enforcing the Monroe doctrine

    I know one could argue that I'm being subjunctive however it pisses me off that we activley interfeered in those countries, and that we would defend such things.
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    The EU has no power over Textbooks of other countries, The Swedish historybooks won't be changed til the EU attacks Sweden with military force, Or some stupid party takes power. The books the EU writes are those about EU history, not about European history.

    Israel was also supposed to rewrite it's historybooks, But to the better version. they are to change it to say that 700 000 Palestinians were forced from their homes, Avidgor Lieberman ( far right leader) strongly opposed this but were overruled by the others.

    Rewriting history to make things look " utopian" are crimes. That Russia is seeking to change history will result in disaster, walking around only knowing the good things about Stalin will not help the Russian population, or their future alot. As this generation will die and the new generations will only believe Stalin was great, also resulting in the politicians thinking the same and then as somebody said- The red button will be pushed and Soviet flags are all over Russia and no more Stan countries left, well only two.
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    One thing I'd have like to seen mentioned in my US history Class was the attempt by Industrialists to overthrow FDR, however its always glossed over. Probally because peolpe would rather have it not known that America almost became a fascist dictatorship.
    or Roosevelt stacking the court

    I guess Ferrets is just now beginning to wake up to the real world.
    Sure I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is Im not. I honestly feel that America is the best country and all other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

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    They did mention Rosevelt stacking the court. And that was quite fascist of him however he backed down. And unlike Andrew Jackson he didn't tell the Court to enforce its descisions.
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    Rewriting history is more common than writing history.
    History is a highly fact/eyewitness account dependent (sometimes more, sometimes less) form of fiction writing.
    Really, these are things you are supposed to figure out soon after you realize that the majority of what adults say is false. So when you are about 8 if you are ahead of things and no later than 17.

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