American Sports A Bit Slow

**JP226** · July 31, 2007, 10:10 PM

The QBs first job is to read the defense and look for favorable match ups. If he sees something he can take advantage of he can call an audible and change the play at the line.

It all depends on the coach and how much he wants to delegate. Game film does alot of that and it also depends on the freedom of the QB. Gruden sure as hell wouldn't allow Gradkowski to call an audible. He would hardly let Simms do it. Brad Johnson and Griese he trusted a tad bit more.

**Gary88** · July 31, 2007, 10:11 PM

again i do realise that madden the game is very simplified hence it being a joke

**JP226** · July 31, 2007, 10:15 PM

I know that, but now you started a real discussion. BTW 10 days til preseason

**Gary88** · July 31, 2007, 10:17 PM

whats preseason then, is it what we would call friendlies?

**NaptownKnight** · July 31, 2007, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Gary88

whats preseason then, is it what we would call friendlies?

Similar, just a chance for the rookies and bad players to get some PT, to help get them some experience and help the Coaches separate the good from bad. Basically the same, although it seems like Friendlies in soccer are more hyped up, with more fans attending.

**JP226** · July 31, 2007, 10:20 PM

it's the first 4 practice games of the season where the coaches tryout the rookies and warm up the vets

**Rush Limbaugh** · July 31, 2007, 10:23 PM

It all depends on the coach and how much he wants to delegate. Game film does alot of that and it also depends on the freedom of the QB. Gruden sure as hell wouldn't allow Gradkowski to call an audible. He would hardly let Simms do it. Brad Johnson and Griese he trusted a tad bit more.

Of course. Im just pointing out that there is alot more to football than just atheletic ability and that a QB who is good at reading defenses is a very valuable advantage.

**JP226** · July 31, 2007, 10:26 PM

O, sorry I thought we were arguing and I was trying to figure out what we were arguing, lol

**el_dude** · July 31, 2007, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by ccllnply

It might seem like I'm America Bashing and if I've gone to far then you can close this thread, ban me and come to Ireland and beat me up!

I just think in american sports

they seem to spend more time waiting to play instead of actually playing. American Football Example: They spend about 10 to 20 seconds choosing the play, then they take about 5 seconds to get ready, then the QB might change around a few things which takes 2 or 3 seconds and then there's the fake snaps which take about 5 second. And then they take the snap and the play finishes in about 5 seconds unless it was a very successful play and if it was the players spend another few seconds celebrating. Those anyone else think this?

well yeah, american football is not about fluid gameplay like soccer...it's much more about strategic gameplay...well, that's not to say that soccer is not strategic, but american football is much more about planning set plays (which are a bit more rigid than in soccer) and attempting to execute them against a set defensive play (and vice versa)

lol, i don't know if that made any sense to you, but my point is that it's a lot less fluid than soccer, but heavy amounts of strategizing are involved

**Gary88** · July 31, 2007, 10:37 PM

what do you guys think of baseball? we get all the big american sports on here late at night and i have bad insomnia so i put it on sometimes, my god that **** is dull. i always manage to start watching in time to see that in the last innings they got 7 runs but i have no idea how because in this innings they seem fine without being able to hit the ball at all and if they do it goes for a foul ball...christ alive its awful, worse than ice hockey

**oklahomasooners** · July 31, 2007, 11:07 PM

I for one don't like baseball cause it seems like only the better team wins with no chance for the underdog and because of this it seems like the games are predictable.....just my thoughts please don't kill me for saying this

**Rush Limbaugh** · July 31, 2007, 11:20 PM

what do you guys think of baseball?

Mostly boring. I tend to wait for the 8th or 9th inning to watch it even during the playoffs.

But talk about slow and boring . What beats golf for that?

Robin Williams on golf

Now are Scottish sports slow?

**the_mango55** · July 31, 2007, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by oklahomasooners

I for one don't like baseball cause it seems like only the better team wins with no chance for the underdog and because of this it seems like the games are predictable.....just my thoughts please don't kill me for saying this

Hmm, baseball is the game that seems least like this to me.

Perhaps over the whole season, the best teams win the most and it averages out, but you often see stuff like the Devil Rays beating the Yankees or Red Sox 18-4, it all depends on how the pitchers are throwing and if the batters are hot.

Hell, sometimes college teams beat pro teams in baseball, that would never, ever, ever happen in the NFL or NBA.

**JP226** · July 31, 2007, 11:32 PM

baseball is fun. It's good to be there and talk with friends before the game, go in the game and drink and talk with friends. Have a fantastic hotdog drink so beer. Then every so often a major play takes place. Unless it's a major game like the yankees and the sox or a crosstown rivalry like the white sox and the cubs, then every play is major. the cool part about basebal is that it is never over til the last out.

Perhaps over the whole season, the best teams win the most and it averages out, but you often see stuff like the Devil Rays beating the Yankees or Red Sox 18-4, it all depends on how the pitchers are throwing and if the batters are hot.

damn the law of large numbers. You play enough games and you perform up to expectations or maintain a standard normal distribution and perform to your true average.

**the_mango55** · July 31, 2007, 11:39 PM

One of my favorite things about baseball stadiums, or at least about the Orioles park at Camden Yards, because that's the only one I've been to, is that you can bring your own food and drinks in, except alcohol.

Yes, you can bring a whole basket of hotdogs and hamburgers and a cooler of drinks if you want, and they don't care.

**ShangTang** · July 31, 2007, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by Rush Limbaugh

American football fans have nothing on Soccer fans , thats for sure. Their nuts.

Raiders' fans could give any soccer hooligan a run for his money.

Also in regard to Rugby vs Football (American), this should be required reading:

http://wesclark.com/rrr/pads_and_helmets.html

**Justinian** · July 31, 2007, 11:54 PM

The OB for the Jets for instance hasnt much of an arm but boy is he smart and can read a defense and get the job done.

Both #10s in New York are very inconsistent, Eli can show sheer brilliance with where he puts his passes and at other times throw into triple coverage, Chad can show incredible intelligence with his reading of defenses but will other times get too excited and try to bomb it deep and end up getting intercepted.

**Rush Limbaugh** · July 31, 2007, 11:59 PM

Raiders' fans could give any soccer hooligan a run for his money.

Im afraid not. We dont kill people over the game.

Chad can show incredible intelligence with his reading of defenses but will other times get too excited and try to bomb it deep and end up getting intercepted.

Ive never liked Manning. he is way to inacurrate .Chads problem with the bomb is his lack of arm strength however. If you could combine them you would have one hell of a QB however.

**ShangTang** · August 01, 2007, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Rush Limbaugh

Im afraid not. We dont kill people over the game.

False. There are many incidents of rival fans killing each other. I think the most recent case was a South Carolina fan beating to death a Clemson fan over their annual rivalry game.

**Rush Limbaugh** · August 01, 2007, 12:17 AM

False. There are many incidents of rival fans killing each other. I think the most recent case was a South Carolina fan beating to death a Clemson fan over their annual rivalry game.

Thats not what Im talking about

We dont have anything like this

Riots - Argentinian Soccer 06/25/2007

South American Soccer Riots

football riots ( soccer )