300 WoS; General discussion and feedback.

[Athenogoras]

Just remove the prec. It doesnt matter that they are coded spearmen. If it has a missile it will skirmish anyway.

They don't attack, and you can't catch them, so such battles are impossible to win.

Easy. Just put forward a weak unit and AI will attack(slingers, archers, peltasts etc)

[Lanjane]

Athenogoras

...when on field remains one your somatophylakes unit and a few enemy peltast units

I had only one unit, brave somatophylakes lead by general. And there were two enemy peltast units. They wasted their missiles, but didn't attack me hand-to-hand, and my general wasn't able to catch them. Impossible battle.
Thanks for your tip on "prec" ability!

[Athenogoras]

I had only one unit, brave somatophylakes lead by general

What! you leave your galant nobles without support! Who will pamper them now? Bring them water? Carry their shields? Massage their feets? Who will they make fun of and beat for amusement when the battle is over? Who will harvest the fallen of valuables and bring it to you?

[Halie Satanus]

A fight against two peltast units can only be called a skirmish, so that's what they do.

Does beg the question, why fight a battle against two peltast units?. There isn't a hope in hell you'd lose that fight with auto resolve.





Tip; Rhodian slingers. I'll say no more.

[Athenogoras]

Rhodian slingers. I'll say no more

Agreed. Especially against those low-shield targets. Also the ap-archers when you get access to those.

My guess is he sieged a settlement with his bodyguard only, seeking to draw out the enemy without having to siege it. He got attacked be reinforcing army. He destroyed all units except the peltasts.

[Legio]

You actually can catch them with your bodyguard. Have them stand still and put the game in triple speed until they are fresh. Then you can easily catch them, I've done it this way before. If course, I play with lots of time in the hourglass

[Halie Satanus]

Tis true. Spartan bodyguards can out run pretty much anyone when there fresh. Apart from the Immortals, those guys can seriously motor.

[Lanjane]

My guess is he sieged a settlement with his bodyguard only, seeking to draw out the enemy without having to siege it. He got attacked be reinforcing army. He destroyed all units except the peltasts.

Yes, you are right about siege But not about bodyguard's support) I also had two stupid "militia" hoplites with me, but they fled.

[Andalus]

Halie Satanus, I sent you a PM. Did you receive it?

[Halie Satanus]

A'yup, I'll get round to it eventually, just not had time.

[Navajo Joe]

Hi Guys,
Reading a book, just now about the Athenians and the Spartans, suddenly got this desire to get a phalanx and hurt a few Persians. I see this mod is a baby, it looks great and with Aradan and Master of None involved its gonna be great(fan of Viking Invasion).
Downloading now

[Spartan198]

Hi Guys,
Reading a book, just now about the Athenians and the Spartans, suddenly got this desire to get a phalanx and hurt a few Persians. I see this mod is a baby, it looks great and with Aradan and Master of None involved its gonna be great(fan of Viking Invasion).
Downloading now

You won't be disappointed.

Edit: Halie, I was just thinking how putting a Greek rebel sub-faction on the map would provide much more of a challenge than the comparatively docile rebel faction. As it stands, I pretty much steamroll rebel cities without much resistance.

And have you given any thought to expanding the unit rosters and splitting KH up into individual factions for a Greek hegemony campaign to supplement the 300 campaign and add more variety than just Greeks vs Persians in a future patch?

Not that I'm complaining, because WoS is a blast, but more variety is good regardless of how fun the mod is.

[TheXand]

And have you given any thought to expanding the unit rosters and splitting KH up into individual factions for a Greek hegemony campaign to supplement the 300 campaign and add more variety than just Greeks vs Persians in a future patch?

Not that I'm complaining, because WoS is a blast, but more variety is good regardless of how fun the mod is.

That would be a truly fantastic idea for a future mod/sub-mod, have the same units and style but set it during one of the Pelopennesian wars

Lol, I didn't realise that there was a Crete mission, haven't gotten it yet, just as well Decimator22 mentioned it because I have a fleet of Spartans heading there now :S

[Halie Satanus]

Edit: Halie, I was just thinking how putting a Greek rebel sub-faction on the map would provide much more of a challenge than the comparatively docile rebel faction. As it stands, I pretty much steam roll rebel cities without much resistance.

They have to be fairly easy around southern Greece otherwise balancing would have been impossible.

And have you given any thought to expanding the unit rosters and splitting KH up into individual factions for a Greek hegemony campaign to supplement the 300 campaign and add more variety than just Greeks vs Persians in a future patch?

I did plan on something like that, but then WoS took almost a year longer than I planned so I don't think I'll be working on any expansions. Others are welcome to take it over though if they wish.

One question - I can't find preferences.txt for some reason to turn off banners and green arrow markers....I even did a windows search in TheCreativeAssembly folder and the 2 txt files there are for other modfoldered mods - nothing came up for WOS Can anybody help this computer illiterate?

A'yup, what Aradan said..

[decimator22]

Great mod guys, finally started playing it as it was meant to be I've played 80 turns (In the classic edition). Although I never got the liberation of Crete mission. I guess it was because I took it earlier. I love the variety of hoplites and the agema/prhomarchoi etc... I have yet to expel the Persians out of Europe but I'm going there slowly but surely. Again thanks for the great mod as the many other you guys have released.

[Kensei]

mod foldered or no? if not possibility of someone doing it? I don't like to override my games no mod is worth doing it since i play online and i still like to play the vanilla game.

[Spartan198]

mod foldered or no? if not possibility of someone doing it? I don't like to override my games no mod is worth doing it since i play online and i still like to play the vanilla game.

Yes, it's modfoldered.

[TheXand]

Damn, those Spartan bodyguards are tough lol, they completely blitz everything else bar Immortals

I have managed to take full stack rebel cities with only my king and his bodyguard lol.

[Hopit]

I laugh at your cavalry policy(?) It says that greek heavy cavalry isn't as heavy as persians, but I owned whit greek heavy cavalry persian heavy cavalry. (movie version)

[boofhead]

Just downloaded and had a go at the movie mod - fantastic! Thermopylae is as ominous and dreary as the movie set! I can see I'm going to have a lot of fun with this. Kudos to Halie and team

One question - I can't find preferences.txt for some reason to turn off banners and green arrow markers....I even did a windows search in TheCreativeAssembly folder and the 2 txt files there are for other modfoldered mods - nothing came up for WOS Can anybody help this computer illiterate?