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    Default Re: Out with the old: Italy's election is another blow to the EU liberal establishment

    Quote Originally Posted by Aexodus View Post
    I think it's fair to say they took control in 1916, but we're getting off-topic here, and it's not a point worth arguing.

    Italy should have the ability to deport non-citizens it doesn't wish to be in the country, and decide who can enter in the future. This is what Salvini offers. Yes, fascist nationalism has often failed in the past, but tempered nationalism can be a force of good for the Italian people and their interests.
    Two things... firstly, as a matter of principle, in your first sentence you made a point then said it wasn't worth debating. If it wasn't worth debating you shouldn't have attached any argument to the statement.

    Secondly,

    Italy kind of needs as many non citizens as possible to become citizens. That is unless you can convince Italians to have more children. It's the easiest comeback to anti immigrant sentiment in Europe. Don't like foreigners... Rather than have a cry about it, have more babies.

    It's the irony of nationalism in Europe today... Immigration is needed to balance low birth rates and an ageing population.

    What the hell is "tempered nationalism" anyway?

    Sounds like what every country already has based on their mere existence. I think what you're implying is less than "tempered"

    Oh wait. that was three things.
    Last edited by antaeus; March 13, 2018 at 11:06 AM. Reason: If you're going to play in the mud pit, sooner or later, you're going to ruin your suit.
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