Campaign AI

[Magnar]

This thread is for testing out campaign ai tables and values to see what actually works and what doesn't

Currently there are two members of Vae Victis mod working through the ai tables to shed light on it.

Rather than keep this stashed away in our developers forum, we've decided to make a public thread so that others can also help uncover the functionality of the campaign ai. We are making our findings public with the expectation that others will help us to speed up the process. If it ends up that we are the only ones working on it then we will move our findings back to our developers forum and maybe release something if we ever get it all figured out.

Below will be collected the results of all tests. The first thing to test is whether a value is actually being used so large entries will be important there. The next is what affect small and large/ poistive and negative values etc have. Balancing is up to in the individual mods so not relevant to this thread.

Collection of Camapaign AI tests and results:

table name: cai_personality_diplomatic_treaty_values
description: determines the bonus to diplomatic relations with another faction that you have the treaty with. Positive values give bonus to diplomatic relations.
Tests conducted:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Column: Trade Agreement
Value Tested: -1000
Result:
- Before trade agreement relations: +5
- After trade agreement relations: -1227
Conclusion: Values in this table are affected by multipliers elsewhere eg cultural multipliers, before being added to diplomatic relations

table name: cai_personality_deal_evaluation_deal_component_values
description: Positive values give bonuses to chance to accept treaty

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deal component tested: TRADE_AGREEMENT
current relations: +5 neutral
columns: neutral value
Value Tested: 100
Result:
-no change, trade not accepted

current relations: +5 neutral
columns: unfriendly value value
Value Tested: 100
Result:
-trade now accepted with neutral relations

[Magnar]

Test 1:

table name: cai_personality_diplomatic_treaty_values

Column: Trade Agreement
Value Tested: -1000
Result:
- Before trade agreement relations: +5
- After trade agreement relations: -1227
Conclusion: Values in this table are affected by multipliers elsewhere eg cultural multipliers, before being added to diplomatic relations

[Junaidi83 de Bodemloze]

sound you already crack one tables by yourself

[Magnar]

test 2:

table name: cai_personality_deal_evaluation_deal_component_values

deal component tested: TRADE_AGREEMENT
current relations: +5 neutral
columns: neutral value
Value Tested: 100
Result:
-no change, trade not accepted

current relations: +5 neutral
columns: unfriendly value value
Value Tested: 100
Result:
-trade now accepted with neutral relations

[Junaidi83 de Bodemloze]

Test 1

After some trial and error i think i found how diplomacy bonus on diplomacy screen decided

The formula itself
(cai_personality_diplomatic_event_values + cai_personality_diplomatic_treaty_values) - (diplomacy bonus penalty) = total diplomacy

example
Faction tested : Rome
all faction set on : diplomat
treaty : trade agreement
cai_personality_diplomatic_event_values on trade agreement set on diplomat : 50
cai_personality_diplomatic_treaty_values on trade agreement set on diplomat : 50
diplomacy penalty : 25 % (seem C.A wrong on describe rome get 25 % reduce on public order on culture penalty,more like diplomacy penalty)

result : (50 + 50) - 25 % = 75, same number both on monitor and on paper

next experiment
Faction tested : Athen
all faction set on : diplomat
treaty : trade agreement
cai_personality_diplomatic_event_values on trade agreement set on diplomat : 50
cai_personality_diplomatic_treaty_values on trade agreement set on diplomat : 50
diplomacy penalty : none

result : (50 + 50) - 0 % = 100, same number both on monitor and on paper

[Gyan-Avspar]

Useful,but Magnar,can make a tutorial about scripting and make missions?