How about the return of Avatar Conquest in Pharaoh?

**perablenta** · July 18, 2023, 05:09 PM

So what do you think about CA making a new Avatar Conquest MP mode for Pharaoh? Similar to what we had in Shogun 2? It certainty has been a while since than and they could do a better job of it now?

For those who do not know or remember, Avatar conquest was part of Shogun 2 as a separate multiplayer mode which combined persistent armies and deep customization, player clan structure, conquest of provinces, naval battles and leaderboards for up to 4vs4 battles.

I personally think it was one of the most complex and substantial additions to the franchise along with free movement campaign maps, naval battles, cooperative and head to head multiplayer campaigns, RPG skills elements, separate province settlements and yearly seasons.

First, I think it will help with player immersion into each new setting due to personalization of their experience through visual customization of armies, generals and units as well as developing their unique playstyle through growing the skill trees of those generals and units.

The other main reason why I think Avatar needs to come back is improving future games longevity by adding vast replayability and value to the multiplayer.

Also I made a much longer version of my arguments and more here:

**Dismounted Feudal Knight** · July 19, 2023, 08:12 AM

I recall it being a vaguely interesting S2 novelty, might be worth trying but I don't expect to see it now if it isn't already up CA's sleeve for this game. I feel like this is one of their many 'one and done' features that would be unusual to see actually returned and built upon now.