here it is:the new strat map graphics are now completed with the use of prometheus work(and with the agreement of the fantastic Res Gestae team )
here are 2 pics
here it is:the new strat map graphics are now completed with the use of prometheus work(and with the agreement of the fantastic Res Gestae team )
here are 2 pics
Last edited by Gaio Giulio Patrizio; June 22, 2008 at 04:40 AM.
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they are looking great! good work
thanks .Those compliments are our gas
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Hoplites fought in the overhand position.
Underhand would be used only when fighting against mounted opponents.
I respect a reenactors view but there is overwhelming evidence to the fact that they held them overhand.
In fact the reason the Ancient greeks trained a lot, was precisely to have the strength to hold the spear overhand. They were also holding them at an angle so as to avoid hurting the lines in the back when their doru spear would be pulled back to prepare for another thrust.
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i have to agree with you friend Keravne!
Macedones were, are and will always be Greeks
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Τακτική είναι να ξέρεις τι να κάνεις αν υπάρχει κάτι που μπορείς να κάνεις.
Στρατηγική είναι να ξέρεις τι να κάνεις όταν δεν υπάρχει τίποτα να κάνεις.
i was under the same impression.There are lots of possible interpretations of the history as the materials are contradittting eeach other.Anyway we are not able till now to remake animations so we will use the EB ones and so overhand
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they look good
Macedones were, are and will always be Greeks
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Τακτική είναι να ξέρεις τι να κάνεις αν υπάρχει κάτι που μπορείς να κάνεις.
Στρατηγική είναι να ξέρεις τι να κάνεις όταν δεν υπάρχει τίποτα να κάνεις.
Read ancient writings, ancient poetry,download audio lectures , read books...thare is every single evidence cofirming underhand.Xenophon confirms hoplites "resting spears on ground and shoulder then lowering spears and advancing"
The only "excuse" for overhand grip is so called "getting over shield" during pushing match...wich never hapened.
Othismos is missintepertation....of word wich is used for advancment or pressing upon the enemy and not like literal physical push.
There was no physical shoving of hoplites and therefore no overhand.
Reenactors didn't used 2.5-2.7 meter long spears but shorter versions (jawelin lenght 1.7 - 2m).
I tried overhand with 2.5m long pole...and it is impossible to control once it bounces off and impossible to hold it firmly.
You can not train joints, no traning will make your anatomy physicly different.Joint is a joint....and it can break during big leverage....wich overhand grip exactly does that...it strains joints....and do not engage muscles.
Key factor are muscles...and holding overhand strains joints unlike underhand where forearm and biceps muscles are engaged along with hip movement as main motor for strong thrust....wich is the most stable for hoplite.
Last edited by El Muerte; June 23, 2008 at 01:52 PM.
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Wow guys nice mod you have there.
I will definitely download final version when it comes out.
lol thansk
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this si very impressive guys!!
the only thing is that i dont really like the athenian hoplite skins.
have u guys seen the skin for the athenian hoplites for the mod Persian invasion??
u guys should take a look at it for concideration
for ideas
lol our skinner is very skilled and our historicall sources are perfect .We are going to remake them from scretch,ALL of them lol
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thnaks we are doing our best
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someone ask us for a persian preview .
So see the new immortals
the rest of the persian army is stuill under work
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our skinner ids still finishing them.I will told him abut this
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Birillant work, Great units!
Stop torturing us and release it ...