If you move your legions to Tarras he will attack them first but if you don' t he will try to take one of your city' s.
If you move your legions to Tarras he will attack them first but if you don' t he will try to take one of your city' s.
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Hesus would you place the possibility of other tips such as the How to survive the first fifteen turn?
This was great!
Before I could not go very far ...
What more tips do you need?
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"i put all Hastati, principes and triarii in shieldwall formation,"
Can I know how to set the shieldwall formation?
the loose or tight formation button
Basically try pressing "C" button when deploying and you will see the difference.
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why shoudn't you use shield wall agaist more civalised armies caue it works well at stopping them from breaking your lines?
Shield wall has a negative effects when facing phalanx, missile units and cavalry
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So the shield wall is only make the soldiers close to each other. But the missle hit will give a worst damage to shieldwall unit. Am I right?
Yes you are. When you clump your units together, it is natural they will suffer more from missiles (well except for testudo)
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Testudo will suffer more from missile fire as wel i believe, Lt changed it i think. Shield wall is excelent against barbarian infanterie you should use it against them and try to take out there archers with your cav asap.
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Wo woo, so what is the point of testudo then? I mean it is a formation to prevent missile fire by forming shields, so why adding dmg taken while in it? I understand pila or javelins,but arrows?
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I don' t remeber if it where javalins or arrows I think it will be the javalins that do more damage.
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Well the testudo would be very much ineffective then, if it were arrows
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if you're in testudo you will suffer some casualties but not as much as in loose formation!!!!!!!
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some people must be so at this game if they cant survive the first 15 turns...
Interesting... So interesting that I did a little testing. A series of 9 tests to be exact. The tests took place on the grassy flatlands map, where there is no elevation differences. The 1xRoman cohort met head on with a missile unit, where I let the missile unit empty all ammo on the cohort to see the casualties.
Republican Cohort in testudo formation vs 2x Carthaginian Archers: 115 of 164 left standing.
Republican Cohort in normal formation vs 2x Carthaginian Archers: 0 of 164 left standing.
Republican Cohort in shieldwall formation vs 2x Carthaginian Archers: 1 out of 164 standing. (Not routed, archers out of ammo)
Republican Cohort in testudo formation vs 1x Carthaginian Archer: 152 of 164 left standing.
Republican Cohort in normal formation vs 1x Carthaginian Archer: 1 out of 164 left standing. (No rout, archers out of ammo)
Republican Cohort in shieldwall formation vs 1x Carthaginian Archer: 0 out of 164 left standing.
Republican Cohort in testudo formation vs 1x Carthaginian Skirmisher: 111 of 164 left standing.
Republican Cohort in normal formation vs 1x Carthaginian Skirmisher: 9 out of 164 left standing. (Unit routed and enemy stopped firing)
Republican Cohort in shieldwall formation vs 1x Carthaginian Skirmisher: 16 out of 164 left standing. (Unit routed and enemy stopped firing)
I guess some more testing can be done between shieldwall and normal formation, but these tests clearly proves that testudo is far superior to protect your precious legionnaires from missile fire, be it arrows or javelins!
Last edited by Ejergard; January 15, 2009 at 12:01 PM.
hmm, interesting what would be usefull is how long it took for the results to be achieved ie, shieldwall and normal seem to give simular results but did it occur quicker agaist shieldwall, - if not this makes shieldwall more usefull as one of its disadvantages is specified as being weaker agaist missiles