agent limit

Hello, I don't know if this is a bug or not but in my Hungary campaign ( turn 24 and 6 regions) my only spy died but i can't recruit a new one because it says ' agent limit reached'. I already had 2 brothels but decided to build another one thinking this would solve it but no, I have 3 brothels and can't recruit a new spy.


Is there more information somewhere on this forum on what precisely determines the amount of spies/other agents you can have?




I also vaguely remember reading someone post about not being able to recruit new priests in his HRE campaign.. so maybe it's not only with spies?

Have a look ion the export_descr_buildings file for 'agent_limit' and see if the value after is 1. Also look for 'agent' in general to see if you can actually recruit agents. The zero in agent line is the experience level, so don;t be concerned about that.

brothel city requires factions { northern_european, middle_eastern, eastern_european, greek, southern_european, }
{
convert_to 0
capability
{
agent spy 0 requires factions { northern_european, }
agent spy 0 requires factions { middle_eastern, }
agent spy 0 requires factions { eastern_european, }
agent spy 0 requires factions { greek, }
agent spy 0 requires factions { southern_european, }

agent_limit spy 0
agent_limit spy 1 requires factions { all, } and hidden_resource capital

happiness_bonus bonus 2 requires not event_counter FL_policy_shady_connections 1
happiness_bonus bonus 3 requires event_counter FL_policy_shady_connections 1

law_bonus bonus -1

;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; UPKEEP/INCOME
income_bonus bonus -50
}
material wooden
construction 2
cost 2000
settlement_min town
upgrades
{
inn
}
}
;==================================================================================================================================
;=================== INN ============================================================================================
;==================================================================================================================================
inn city requires factions { northern_european, middle_eastern, eastern_european, greek, southern_european, } and building_present_min_level builders builders1
{
capability
{
agent spy 0 requires factions { northern_european, }
agent spy 0 requires factions { middle_eastern, }
agent spy 0 requires factions { eastern_european, }
agent spy 0 requires factions { greek, }
agent spy 0 requires factions { southern_european, }


agent_limit spy 1





Does this mean you can only start to recruit spies when you have at least an inn? So when you have only brothels you can't yet recruit spies

Close - in the brothel level you can only recruit in the capital, ergo only one spy:

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agent_limit spy 0 ; -- cannot ordinarily recruit agent
agent_limit spy 1 requires factions { all, } and hidden_resource capital ; -- can only recruit in 'capital'

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Once you have the inn level you can recruit anywhere, as many agents as you have inns.

oooh now understand haha i forgot none of these 3 brothels were in my capital szekersferhar( i decided not to build a brothel there because there would be often important generals there and i know brothels can give bad traits)

thank you

One is glad to be of service :buba:

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Originally Posted by Gigantus

One is glad to be of service :buba:

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Hi wise Gigantus, currently i am working in a unit minimod for sship, improving a lot of files for support sship developers and maybe for include it in the next version, but i have some question about the files:
1.How can I make a normal unit a mercenary unit? What files do I need to modify?

2. How can I add a unit to a faction? I mean do they need to have the textures in battlemodels? because if not, I understand that the silver surfer units will appear...


3. And how can I open the battle file, which Kostic works with for unit modification?

Thanks in advance genious

1. Enter the unit it in the descr_mercenaries file. Add the 'mercenary_unit'** attribute to the unit in the EDU file. Open the modeldb file with Notepad and search for the model(s) entries. change one of the faction entries (texture and attachment entry) to 'merc' and change the line count number to 4 in front of it.
** Will force the unit to use the unified 'merc' textures

2. ModelDB entries consist of two sections - the texture and the attachment. All you need to do is to 'clone' those entries and change the faction name entry (and have a correct line number). Plus you need to increase the value of the faction count number by one for both sections. See this tutorial as well.

3. Simply open with Notepad: right click file, choose 'open with' and then select Notepad or Notepad++, whichever you are using right now. Make sure to select 'always use this...'

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Originally Posted by Gigantus

1. Enter the unit it in the descr_mercenaries file. Add the 'mercenary_unit'** attribute to the unit in the EDU file. Open the modeldb file with Notepad and search for the model(s) entries. change one of the faction entries (texture and attachment entry) to 'merc' and change the line count number to 4 in front of it.
** Will force the unit to use the unified 'merc' textures

2. ModelDB entries consist of two sections - the texture and the attachment. All you need to do is to 'clone' those entries and change the faction name entry (and have a correct line number). Plus you need to increase the value of the faction count number by one for both sections. See this tutorial as well.

3. Simply open with Notepad: right click file, choose 'open with' and then select Notepad or Notepad++, whichever you are using right now. Make sure to select 'always use this...'

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Thank you very much for your help Gigantus, I will try it later and if I have any questions I will ask you again.I will try to improve sship mod and make it more realistic and immersive if possible.

@Gigantus, another question about units... how do I know that a unit has models (unit model) for a specific faction and exists? For example, how do I know and in which file can I check that the Norman knights are accessible and have unit models for the English or the Germans... Because if, for example, I add a unit to a faction whose unit model is not created for Should that faction give an error or should it not be Silver Surfer? Example: adding "Axe Militia" to the Abbasid faction, in principle that unit does not have a unit model for the Abbasids but I want to check if it is possible to add it or it will cause problems.

"Adding axe militia to Abbasids" is exactly what the linked tutorial describes, eg 'adding an existing unit to another faction'. It also applies to the 'mercenary' aspect your query as far as the modelDB stuff goes.

And yes, 'silver surfers' mean that a unit is lacking it's faction texture entries in the modelDB file.

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Originally Posted by Gigantus

1. Enter the unit it in the descr_mercenaries file. Add the 'mercenary_unit'** attribute to the unit in the EDU file. Open the modeldb file with Notepad and search for the model(s) entries. change one of the faction entries (texture and attachment entry) to 'merc' and change the line count number to 4 in front of it.
** Will force the unit to use the unified 'merc' textures

2. ModelDB entries consist of two sections - the texture and the attachment. All you need to do is to 'clone' those entries and change the faction name entry (and have a correct line number). Plus you need to increase the value of the faction count number by one for both sections. See this tutorial as well.

3. Simply open with Notepad: right click file, choose 'open with' and then select Notepad or Notepad++, whichever you are using right now. Make sure to select 'always use this...'

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another question Gigantus, in the EDU about the ownership section the word "all" comes and sometimes followed by several factions... what does it mean?and because some units do not have the "era" that was 0, it was era 1... some units do, others do not... here is an example.
For mercenary troops, it necessary that ownership is "slave" dont you?, and for "all" is available for all factions? But after exist the "era" 1,2 and 3 with some factions...

Could you explain me all these issues please?
I want make Mercenary troops and also AOR units

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. armour_ug_models Norman_Serjeants
ownership all
era 0 england, scotland, france, norway, denmark, jerusalem, aragon, hre, spain, portugal, moors, pisa, venice, papal_states, hungary, serbia, sicily, poland, byzantium
era 1 england
recruit_priority_offset 0; before was: 15
;335

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. armour_ug_models Turkish_Ghulams, Turkish_Ghulams, Turkish_Ghulams
ownership turks, rum, zengid, abbasid, slave
era 0 turks, rum, zengid, abbasid
recruit_priority_offset 0; before was: 35
;334

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• all - that literally means all factions listed in descr_strat, possibly even descr_sm_factions, eg factions listed there but not used in descr_strat.
• ownership - compulsory for use in the campaign, unit will be available in all eras in custom battle unless specified otherwise (see next)
• era1 to era3 - optional, this restricts custom battle availability in that era to the factions listed, note that listing in only one era will require listing in the other eras as well unless it's not desired. For example if you only list factions in era2 then the unit will not be available in era1 and era3.
• no_custom - in descr_sm_factions factions can be exempted from use in custom battles by setting the value to yes. The same attribute in EDU can be used to exempt individual units.

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Originally Posted by Gigantus

• all - that literally means all factions listed in descr_strat, possibly even descr_sm_factions, eg factions listed there but not used in descr_strat.
• ownership - compulsory for use in the campaign, unit will be available in all eras in custom battle unless specified otherwise (see next)
• era1 to era3 - optional, this restricts custom battle availability in that era to the factions listed, note that listing in only one era will require listing in the other eras as well unless it's not desired. For example if you only list factions in era2 then the unit will not be available in era1 and era3.
• no_custom - in descr_sm_factions factions can be exempted from use in custom battles by setting the value to yes. The same attribute in EDU can be used to exempt individual units.

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Perfect Gigantus!!! And for mercenaries is neccesary that the ownership will be "slave"??? I think that is for a generic unit, but in desc_mercenaries file tell that * in EDB there must be slave ownership for any unit appearing in this file , why??
Thanks in advance genius

all means all, the default ownership setting for mercenaries - that includes the slave faction. But it does need slave ownership if all isn't used and you want the slaves to recruit that unit, needs texture in modeldb for slave faction then.

@Gigantus I already managed to do this for the "Riders" as mercenaries throughout Iberia, but how can I make it so that the campaign map has unit card and unit info? What files should I modify so that they appear correctly in the campaign? Currently the icon of the Roman Peasant is released (default medieval 2)