Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
I'd play it. Big fan of any mods centered around Scandinavia, me.
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
You are welcome if you want to do a submod of ATW. We can give you a subforum if you wish.
There is already a submod about mythological ireland that have been started by Dol Guldur of the FATW team but it's paused now (and anyone who wish to help his work his welcome). There maybe another submod about the early years of the kingdom of Mercia.
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
Looks interesting. I'd particularly think about contacting Hross, who was ATW's Germanic expert, and has a particular expert and expertise in that location and era IIRC.
Antagonist
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
Good idea! Could it be possible to have British Isles and Scandinavia on the same map in one of the next versions? After all most of the efforts of Scandinavians in that time were oriented in raids and invasions on Britain shores.
By the way what is the exact period encompassed by your mod?
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
AD 481-685 (from the crowning of Clovis to the battle of Dunnichen).
And some historical battles involve events from the late IVth, and most of Vth centuries. There have been some ideas with campaigns featuring Hengest, Vortigern, Ambrosius Aurelianus or Niall of the Nine Hostages for earlier periods, or the anglo-saxon heptarchy for later ones.
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
I would be very interested in late ATW units for a 840AC Viking mod.
Can you ATW team PM me if that is possible?
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
Well, I actually haven't got a lot of time to work on this right now because of school and such...
I would also need a bit of help getting this mod to work, as i haven't got a lot of experience with modmaking.
To start with I would like to finish the map and decide which factions should be included. (maybe Danes, Jutes, English, Saxons, Suiones etc.)
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Originally Posted by Agraes
We can give you a subforum if you wish.
I don't think it will be necessary yet (I have to see if the sub-mod gets anywhere), but thanks for the offer, I'll contact you if i reconsider:thumbsup2
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Originally Posted by
Gatto
Good idea! Could it be possible to have British Isles and Scandinavia on the same map in one of the next versions? After all most of the efforts of Scandinavians in that time were oriented in raids and invasions on Britain shores.
I've been considering this options too, but this would make it difficult to have the English, Saxons and Jutes focus on Britain instead of just staying in their homelands. An option could be having an Anglo-Saxon faction...
If I decide not having britain in the mod, There would have to be some script making the population in the migrating tribe's lands decrease...
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Originally Posted by
Gatto
By the way what is the exact period encompassed by your mod?
To begin with it will be the same as ATW...
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
I've been wondering why no one has made a mod from this time period. I'd love to play it. Keep us posted.
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
About time someone did this!
Here's some essays on AngloSaxon paganism I've done-
http://www.ealdriht.org/earendel.html
http://www.ealdriht.org/wade.html
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
I would play any good mods situated in Scandinavia!
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
I would invite every person who has knowledge in Vikings, to help to define the viking villages/castles for a 840AC RTW/BI Viking Invasion mod.
Sure 840AC is way later than ATW, but maybe some are interested to help.
Here is the viking and other north Europe important villages/castles I have found so far:
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/977...orthmapjo3.jpg
Im currently trying to find out the propper name for the main city of petty kingdom of Agder. (might be Spanger Eid? But that don't sounds like a village/castle).
In old MTW Viking Invasion the Vikings of Hordaland use a castle named
'Skinngsal', but I have not found any historial reference where CA has that from.
Click on my sig for thread.
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
The map i'm making have some of the same settlements as yours: Birka, Köpingsvik, Gudme(Gudme is a settlement on Fyn, not Sjælland. Instead you should have Lejre or Roskilde on Sjælland), Uppåkra, Skiringsal and Avaldsnes
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
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Gudme(Gudme is a settlement on Fyn, not Sjælland. Instead you should have Lejre or Roskilde on Sjælland)
Hehe, yes, you are right.:thumbsup2
I already changed from Gudme to Lejre because Gudme was before 800 and the RTW/BI Viking Invasion starts 840.
Roskilde is sayed to be founded 998.
Also I found Jelling comes only in use from Gorm den Gamle (Gorm the old), hundred years after mod starts, so I'm thinking now to use Aggersborg or Aalborg.
Do you know some propper castles/cities for the baltic countries?
Thanx for your help!
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
Yeah, I would go for Lejre too... I also think Jelling is wrong, if I were you, I would go for Lindholm (Høje), and split Jutland into one more region and also have Ribe as a settlement (It was one of the earliest and biggest towns)
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Do you know some propper castles/cities for the baltic countries?
Jumne and Grobin would be fitting for your period.
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
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I would go for Lindholm (Høje)
Yea, I thought that too, but Lindholm Høje looks more like only a burrial mound/cemetery for me.
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, and split Jutland into one more region and also have Ribe as a settlement (It was one of the earliest and biggest towns)
Yes, if you look on map, I have made Ribe the harbor :whistling
(I use that often, if a place is only mentioned as a port/trading place, without much military importance: I'm short of countries, cause the mod has full Byzantines and parts of Abbesid empire) Might add one more country to Daner if I get some free elsewhere
But is Ribe really that old? It is mentioned in sources I found only as an unimportant place compared to Hedeby, Dorstad, Köpingswik or even Birka.
Jumne = Jomsburg?
Jomsburg I have in.
I will make Grobin the city for Eistland, thanx for that!
(Hehe I suspect a lot of complaints from Baltic people and Russians, Ukrainians when they find most of their cities have Viking names in mod ;) )
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
Jumne is the same as Wolin, situated near the semi-legendary Jomsborg. I would use Jumne/Wolin instead of Jomsborg.
Ribe was an important settlement, more important than many of the other Scandinavian ones...
Also Aggersborg was built by Gorms grandson Svend Tveskæg, and Aalborg is much later, maybe it's even the predecessor of Lindholm? And Spangereid seems like a good settlement... maybe some other name though
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aggersborg
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Dating the structure has proven difficult, since the archaeological site has also been the site of an
Iron Age village. The ring castle is believed to have been constructed around
980 during the reign of king
Harold Bluetooth and / or
Sweyn Forkbeard
Yes, you are right, the ringcastle they have there is from later than Gorm den Gamle, but they write that they have found an older village of longhouses and grubhuts there under the present ringcastle.
The problem I have with Lindholm Høje, I have not found any reference of village signs there yet, no longhouses, no castle, only burial sites.
With Alborg:
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The earliest settlements date back to around 700 AD
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alborg )
Yes on Spanger Eid, the name sux, but I did not find any name of the Agder kings city yet. :(
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
I haven't, as I said had a lot of spare time to work on this project,
but I've begun making a new map, which is better and more detailed:
Attachment 7459
I've just had some problems, because I haven't been able to make it work ingame.
The reason is that there's to much water, so I will just have to find a solution.
Other than that, I could really use some instructions or help from a mappper, to make the map work ingame.
Actually I would appreciate if anyone with some experience in modding would help me get this thing running.
If some experienced and interested guys want to create a team,
I might just make this project more serious, and then I'm sure we will get a subforum where we can get the project structured.
I welcome any interested members, who wants to contribute to the project, both with historical knowledge and all the other modding areas.
Dansk Viking
Re: Scandinavia in the migration period.
Don't know too much about modding & maps, but I do know that ATW has those weird islands just to achieve the correct land/water ratio. Might be worth asking the ATW team?