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Good one, Gigantus.
You mean in the data folder of the base/core game not the mod's data folder, yes? Why does it need to do that? I've never worked with animations so maybe that's a noob question.Quote:
renames the original game's data\animation directory
That sounds like it only happens the first time you run the mod. But wouldn't it generate them on every running of the mod? Or is this BAT only intended to be used on the first run, and after that players should launch it in the normal way?Quote:
The BAT file will generate the required IDX\DAT files at the first start of the mod
For some reason animations require the default game's IDX\DAT files to be unavailable for generating to be able to use the 'unpacked' animation files for generating. Very unlike sound generation.
The generating will happen every time you start the mod - the music generating causes a delay of roughly 2-3 seconds at start up depending on your processing power, animations is barely measurable. I have yet to experiment with file calling within a BAT file - it would require a second BAT file to replace this one with a regular one for use in updates.
The rather short delay however did not seem to warrant that.
Oh Man, this (the sounds) couldn't come at a better time. I'll have a look at it. Many thanks for this Gig :bow:
Edit: quick question: is the sounds kit works for all versions of the game? I mean - if this seems to be ok for a Steam version, what about the disk version of the game, especially the non-english one?
I'm asking because for my mod, there are some sounds and voices missing for the non-english version of the game.
The language used\installed shouldn't really matter as I would think the TXT files are the same**, nor does it matter if it is the steam or disk version. It works just the same for all.
For some languages the local sound (mp3) files are missing and hence some accents are not working. I am guessing you are talking about German, check here how to fix that particular issue. It's a very simple matter of re-allocating the accent of some of the factions in descr_sounds_accents.
** I changed the local language in my desk version to German to test the issue in the linked resource and generated new IDX\DAT files from these TXT files after the descr_sounds_accent adjustment without a problem.
I thought some version didn't get the same amount of accent compare to the english one? It seems that the french disk version of the game has some missing voices with SSHIP :hmm:
That's exactly was I was saying - the language specific stuff (mainly strat voices and all the data\text files) is in the localized.pack file - for the German version (the link I gave) no sound files were provided for the Eastern_european and Scottish accent, hence the relevant factions were totally mute on the strat map.
Check which accent the mute factions have in the French version and adjust descr_sounds_accents accordingly, then generate a new set of IDX\DAT files. You have the means now for that easy a fix, don't you?
Once again - it's not the TXT files that are the culprit, it's the missing sound files of the localized pack files. To be a bit cheeky - if CA had used my update system they only would have had to provide an edited descr_sounds_accents file and they would have been spared this embarrassment of mute factions :tongue:
I don't have a french version of the game. My both versions (disk and Steam) are in english. Ironic for a French, isn't it? :laughter:
Seriously, if I get you right, I just need to ask the guys who reported that issue to send me or to check their descr_sounds_accents.txt file to find out. But there's a modified version of that file in out latest release. Could this be due to missing entries in the voice folder, itself located in the sounds folder? If yes, I'd just need to extract the sounds folder from the original game (in English) and would need to include in in my mod. At least, it will work in english. Am I right?
Correct, default would be to simply cross check the mute factions against their accent allocation and change to it 'live' accent. that change only affects the events.dat\idx files (6MB max, compressed less then1MB) so you could simply provide these files plus the edited TXT file as interim solution
I'll see what Ican do ;)
Many thanks for your help again :bow:
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Hi Gigantus! May I ask?
if I know that steam version for example does not have 3 these files in Voice.dat:
German_General_Selected_Chivalry_1
German_General_Selected_Chivalry_2
German_General_Selected_Chivalry_4
These files are not directly in the Steam version. (I myself recently compared the unpacked sound files with the CD version), and hence the question, in order to fix this, I need
take missing voice files (from English, French, Polish version of game - doesn't matter) and pack them with all sounds files and music separately for players from each country? (Oh God, this is bad. Tell me it's not, please)
Assuming that my mod will be translated into 5 other languages, and if I want to satisfy for them the need to fix this deficiency - for m2tv players of all countries (localization for which was released on steam - there are like 7-8 languages)
You can make your life easier - I extracted the missing voice files (bit over 1000 files), get them here.
Well, I complicated it myself. I found out by comparison unpack cd and steam that 943 files are missing (not counting animals) before I stumbled upon your topic.
By the way, thanks - because I didn’t pay attention to animals (yes, I don’t need wardogs there, but here’s everything else: horses, camels and elephants - it’s very necessary and important)
(I'm not very good with English - it's hard to delve into your guide) but tell me please me in simple language: If we talking about mod for m2tw:
I still have to:
•delete 8 sound files: idx and dat)
•generate new files with these (1009-13 (wardogs)) missing files after puting them to sound folder with all my other mods sounds files?.
In other words, should I do all the same things that I used to do when I packed sounds in my mod before?
Or does your guide show how to pack these voice sound files into the Steam version itself (ie the original game)?
Those. if we are talking about mods (and fixing the missing voice files for the steam on which it runs) - then these missing voice files - will they be in the sounds folder of the mod itself in the end?
And I will have 8 sound files (idx and dat) of the mod - first ones for the cd version and the second ones - for 1.52 (steam)?
(I don't want mod players to get stressed out by reading all sorts of guides on how to fix this - I want them to have as little body movement as possible before they start playing - because many of them from RF and Ukr and dont know English very well to undaerstand how to use this guide)
thanks in advance for your reply.
You basically proceed as you would with replacing sound files.
1. Add files into the data\sounds directory
2. delete all idx and dat files
3. Start the game
If you use this dev kit to do it then afterwards simply make a backup of the sounds directory in the main game's folder and then copy the sounds directory from the dev kit over - that way you'll have it for the main game and all your mods.
Aa My brain is about to explode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gigantus
Can you write point by point (step by step) what should I do to add the missing 943 voice files to the vanilla steam version? (so I don't have to pack them into my mod's sound files)
I installed the dev kit but I don't understand anything.
I can't even replace the track (Credits)_We_are_all_one in the Steam version.
Please be my savior - and explain it in detail
So far you did everything right. Unfortunately it is very complicated (see those 11 steps in the other guide) to add those voice files to the base game. Adding them to another mod is the same way you added it to the devkit.
A much easier way then those 11 steps is to simply install and play my Bare Geomod modding set up - it is the main game with a number of small fixes and already includes these voice files. It also has all factions available to play from the start.
Hm. Where can I find these 11 steps of the green mile? :)
PS, Yes, I saw that you improved and fixed almost all the bugs of the original game. This is great. But the Vanilla game itself doesn't interest me (I don't plan to play it and haven't played it for 10 years). I need it solely as a base for the mod. And here is the insertion of missing voice files - this is my main task. Since the future belongs to the Steam version, and a lot of people are already playing the mod on the Steam version (mostly English-speaking players) and I would like their game to be as comfortable as possible (without blood from the ears, as one guy said somewhere here)
UPD: Oh I have finded it.
I ll try it. and if I still have questions even then, I will ask you them (if you don't mind).
If you want to add the voice files to another mod then you do it the same way as you did in the dev kit (my post #15, your post #17) - you will need to have all the necessary sounds txt files present in that mod.
The '11 steps' are only for installing it in the Steam base game.
Thank you very much! And one more question please.
I have packed all the files in the Russian version of vanilla. But I noticed that my new file events.dat is 5733kb, and the old one is 6594kb (russian steam original file). This worries me a little. Usually the size is smaller when some files are had not packed. But after all, everything was exactly packed in my case, - I checked it.
Only the file Plant_stake_01.wav was not packed, which is not in the vanilla sound txt files and I don't know where to put it. (his size 57,6 kb)
but it can’t affect the reduction in the size of the events.dat file by 861kb. (But I did move the vanilla factions in the accents file as well, since Russian localization of vanilla does not have Mongolian, Scottish, or Eastern European accents.) but 85% sure they shaded them exactly like me (in the accents file)
Do you have any suggestions why it is still so much one file less than the original? (everything is fine with the rest - their size is almost identical to the original files of the Russian steam version up to 10kb and even my new voice1.dat is bigger than orig by 5mb)
And Have you compared events.dat with your original files in English version of steam m2tw?
The sounds\events file in the English disk version are 6593KB, based on the text files from the download. I can only guess that somewhere something went wrong in your setup. Even my voice.idx file is 30.635KB as compared to your 24.774KB
Have a look into the dev kit log if there is an error message with regards to sounds.
well, there are definitely no errors because all the files were packed (except for one that is not used by Plant_stake_01.wav - by the way, did you manage to insert it into sound files and find where it is written?)
I opened the events.dat file in the note editor - and found that in this sound file (which I remind you was taken from the clean Russian steam version of the game) and I found notes and writing there for all accents that were not localized, namely: Scottish, Mongolian and Eastern European. There has simply never been a Russian voiceover (localization) of such accents.
Where does my question arise - how could they do it? After all, if you put files in the date folder and sounds in the sounds folder, then if at least one sound file that is registered in the text files is missing, then there will be a crash when packing (that is, when entering the game)... Do you have any ideas how did they do it?
I hope my translator and (my edits of it) conveyed the meaning that I wanted to say. (Sorry for my English)
upd; I think I understand the reason. In the vanilla Russian steam version - all factions are silent (which do not have localization - Russian voice acting).
But I still don't understand how could they pack the sound files with sounds which have been written in txt files that weren't in the sounds folder.
It's actually simple - it will only crash once (during the creation of the files). After that the game will run without those sound files having been present, resulting in silence when those sounds were supposed to play.
Happened to us while developing Rise of three Kingdoms and had us puzzled for a while until we located the sound error message. EBII had it as well during development if memory serves.