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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    So if Hamas (like Hamas in the parallel universe, which is used so often as a pretext) was magically able to invade Israel with tanks/planes/missiles and kill tens of thousands, it would be also...
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    Acting like we are in a world war, with Hamas being Japan, is next level :)
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    Imo it is rather clear that Hamas is a terrorist organization, whether honestly muslim or not is beyond the point and doesn't even matter, they are terrorist.
    But it should never be hard to realize...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    If that was so, then I expect you'd have no issue if all 2 million palestinians in Gaza died? And if not, why does it work now and not then, when it's not about arithmetic?
    Trying to allow you to...
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    That's why proportionality is an issue. At some point, if you react to the killing of 1000 people by killing (what is it by now) 34.000, it should become obvious you are just using the death of the...
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    Nothing gives those people more incentive to remove Hamas than massacring them as blamed for not removing Hamas.
    This rests upon knowing that it is human nature to take the side of your mother's...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    Sigh, you really are unable to realize that a population can't easily oust its foreign-backed government? Now add to that equation that it's currently massacred by a state that calls for that...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    You do realize that the people of Gaza can't remove Hamas, right? Its leadership is in Turkey (formerly in Qatar). And then fail to realize that Israel can't remove Hamas non-leaders in Gaza either,...
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    Let's not pretend that many people hold the position that Israel killed 10.000+ children because it was so anxious to have 100 something hostages released.
    But hey, maybe that is a Hamas number and...
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    Some major greek newspapers mention it, along with information that the guard has now been released, following diplomatic or state intervention. Eg:...
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    MVRvHWVJYFI

    So what exactly happened here?
    I am not a practicing christian, but surely arresting (looks more like abduction by thugs) the consul's bodyguard (who should also have diplomatic...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Any chance of a russian offensive in Summer that can force some kind of end (=talks about signing peace, clearly with more lost territories for Ukraine)?
    Russia is slowly eating up more land in the...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    It's part of the problematic position you hold, that you think the operative in a claim is what the person presenting it thinks, and not the claim. You can follow its symmetry to why you yourself...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    A genocide doesn't have to be getting rid of the entire population. Israel already killed 2% of the population. You are arguing that if it wanted to, it could kill a lot more a lot faster, but...
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    A cyclist in pain

    A cyclist fell off his bike and is in pain, but because the pain is excruciating and lasts for a while, he finally convinces himself that he is in pain because he is actually a pedestrian who wanted...
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    Sticky: Re: 'You Laugh, You Lose Thread (No Videos, Read OP)

    https://i.imgur.com/ZypnKqw.png
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    It's ok, you should just stick to what the IDF says. After all, they run checks on their own self, so if they are wrong they will know and be self-punished.
    Foreign journalists not being allowed (by...
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    Ever let the thought come to your head that there isn't evidence of a smoking gun because there is no smoking gun?
    The situation in some countries - don't know about Holland, Germany certainly is...
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    Re: The "I just saw" thread

    auNZNk7quaE

    Do you remember him from the 90s? (pretty boy from the Faculty and a few other teen movies).
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    By now the majority of oil production is in the China/Russia alliance (the one originally termed Brics), including Saudi and Persia. Russia alone is almost as big a producer as Saudi.
    Graph:...
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    Sticky: Re: 'You Laugh, You Lose Thread (No Videos, Read OP)

    https://i.imgur.com/aGydt2P.png
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I tried to look for other posts by AqD in the thread, which would imply that this is sarcasm, but he doesn't have that many here apparently and I can't go back 500 pages :surprise:
    Regardless if it...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    I agree with Mishkin, it's just jingoism to support x because "it's our side!". It's another problematic consequence of viewing large entities (countries, or even blocks like "the west") as in...
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    Poll: Re: It's poll time

    Castor and Poland did that too.
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    Re: The "I just saw" thread

    I tried to watch Nope (some Peele horror movie), but it simply is lame.
    Some of the cinematography is fine, the story itself... nope.
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    The way things are going, it will get to the point where world war not happening will be even more miserable.
    Because it'll only mean an extended prewar period of massive rearmament.

    What can...
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    Re: Alexander: Making of a God

    You are making him sound like Genghis Khan. Alexander became a mythical hero in many different countries - that doesn't happen if you simply killed and conquered them (imagine the mongols being...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    Religion is negative at the best of times, but a cow prophecy, really? ^^
    The leadership of Hamas is relocating to Turkey, btw (not that half of it wasn't there to begin with). I view this too...
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    Re: The "I just saw" thread

    Late Night with the Devil.

    This was meh.
    I'd say that what it had going for it was the girl, but as I am unsure if she is >=18 or not (?), it can't be a focus.
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Cheering for war, cheering for war never changes.
    In that it is the same as war :) Maybe that's why one tends to lead to the other.
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    Is this really a gamble by Israel that it will be better off if it causes a massive war in the middle east?
    Because with its new strike against Iran, it looks like this is the trajectory.
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    ^_^
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    One of the many issues with Hamas, is that Israel created it, to antagonize (and often literally murder) Fatah officials, ultimately making it even harder for Palestine to form in WB and Gaza. That...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Formal logic system nhyt got it, though the implication works without the specific trait.
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Sounds too meek, imo. We should simply nuke Moscow, they wouldn't retaliate because they can't risk nuclear war.
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    λ is the greek lowercase letter for l (L), you barbarian (=non greek) ^^
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    Can't you infer that the point is it only cares about dead Israelis? Come on :P
    Can't pretend there is an ethical position, when the ethical part of it (we care about all dead people) is a blatant...
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    Re: Hamas attacks southern Israel

    Speaking as someone who can - or rather could - be termed a "friend of Israel", I simply don't see how it can be claimed that Israel doesn't end the war because it cares about hypothetical future...
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    ^I agree with you entirely on that point.
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    Poll: Re: Russia, US, Ukraine, and the Future

    Preemptive attack, while often presented as self-defense, is generally the opposite (a giveaway is that it features the term attack in its name).
    "Billions dead" can include the entire population of...
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