Sicily in High Era Campaign

[dnzunlu]

Hello everyone, I love the mod but I have a few questions.
1- Is high era campaign complete? people say its not and its unpolished but what kind of polish does it require?
2- You can choose sicily in the high era campaign but the lore says HRE controlled those lands so whats going on?
3- My relations go down with factions ( even my allies!!) everytime i try to expand and my allies betray me everytime they see a unguarded city. How to prevent this? ( I have savage AI)

[Alavaria]

1- Is high era campaign complete? people say its not and its unpolished but what kind of polish does it require?

Almost all the things? I mean it works but the starting positions, characters etc are not done yet, a few things were changed but you still have people from centuries ago etc.

2- You can choose sicily in the high era campaign but the lore says HRE controlled those lands so whats going on?

You can, but the faction controls nothing so there's nothing at all you can do there.

3- My relations go down with factions ( even my allies!!) everytime i try to expand and my allies betray me everytime they see a unguarded city. How to prevent this? ( I have savage AI)

Yeah and unless something's changed that's the only AI you can get as SSHIP puts that one in and no others. You can store a stack in the city (so it isn't unguarded) or murder everyone (so no allies to betray you).

[dnzunlu]

Almost all the things? I mean it works but the starting positions, characters etc are not done yet, a few things were changed but you still have people from centuries ago etc.


You can, but the faction controls nothing so there's nothing at all you can do there.


Yeah and unless something's changed that's the only AI you can get as SSHIP puts that one in and no others. You can store a stack in the city (so it isn't unguarded) or murder everyone (so no allies to betray you).

Thanks for that. Now I have bigger problems tho. It seems the population system is broken and I am getting plagues on nearly all my cities

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[Alavaria]

What, did you hit the Black Plague or something?

[dnzunlu]

What, did you hit the Black Plague or something?

No, I am in the year 1168.

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[Lifthrasir]

If you don't build/upgrade buildings with health bonus, that happens regularly especially for large towns and above.

[dnzunlu]

If you don't build/upgrade buildings with health bonus, that happens regularly especially for large towns and above.

But there has to be a way to remove it right? This is such a major bug, idk why nobody is complaining about it.

Ps. Can you add some better units to rum? They cannot do anything against the op roman spearmen.



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[MWY]

Because it is not a bug. !?

Revised rum-roster will come in the future.

[dnzunlu]

Because it is not a bug. !?

Revised rum-roster will come in the future.

Technically It may not be a bug but you gotta admit it's ridiculous and unrealistic. So much for the "Historical Improvement" part of the mod i guess

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[MWY]

You are literally the only one complaining about this. And not in a constructive way.

[dnzunlu]

You are literally the only one complaining about this. And not in a constructive way.

It actually blows my mind how you refuse to admit that this issue should be fixed. The game is not fun when your generals and elites die from random plagues every 3 turns. If that is not constructive, idk wtf is

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[Lifthrasir]

2 things:
1. we have a very limited amount of sickness/disease that can be represented in game. There's no famine, no meadow, etc...
2. tell me how is it unrealistic to have a big or huge city without any structure/building for health and without disease? I think there are enough records through history proving that fact.

[Alavaria]

Isn't the plague thing just hardcoded?

Definitely do not stack your reserves etc in a settlement, that's for sure.

[Lifthrasir]

The Black Death is hardcoded. The local plague is a random event/script or similar stuff. It appears once the requiered conditions are met. I'm not sure that that one is hardcoded.

[Alavaria]

The descr_events has this in it, so presumably editable:

; ------------ CORE GAME EVENT --------------
event	plague 		black_death_hits
date	214
position	474, 212
position	505, 147
position	433, 242
position	423, 178
position	430, 262
position	495, 120
position	508, 114
position	500, 107
position	472, 78
position	449, 107
position	438, 108
position	453, 81
position	383, 190
position	362, 186
position	319, 166
movie	event/black_death.bik

event	plague		black_death_1
date 	216
position	434, 136
position	425, 147
position	400, 146
position	386, 151
position	370, 118
position	362, 141
position	346, 171
position	329, 148
position	333, 124
position	310, 118
position	335, 115
position	338, 106
position	336, 97
position	343, 90
position	331, 83
position	325, 72
position	323, 69
position	306, 72
position	302, 61
position	313, 132
position	291, 137
position	297, 114
position	318, 99
position	271, 122
position	344, 132
position	374, 134
position	258, 99
position	242, 118
position	229, 126
position	284, 142
position	268, 145
position	223, 76
position	173, 119
position	393, 113
position	351, 122
position	242, 139
position	218, 142
position	206, 154
position	199, 142
position	174, 159
position	168, 173
position	161, 167
position	158, 160
position	169, 146
position	182, 139
position	144, 174
position	142, 166
position	113, 160
position	355, 114
position	142, 129
position	387, 108
position	425, 97
position	361, 106
position	347, 109
position	457, 57
position	421, 65
position	329, 59
position	355, 44
position	363, 22
position	364, 1
position	396, 88
position	293, 71
position	191, 120
position	153, 158
position	130, 160
position	218, 149
position	157, 172
;position	kerman
;position	sharjah
;position	al-mu

event	plague 		black_death_2
date	218
position	172, 82
position	157, 101
position	151, 109
position	100, 110
position	66, 97
position	98, 130
position	70, 120
position	75, 131
position	93, 143
position	71, 145
position	66, 153
position	88, 159
position	72, 169
position	113, 174
position	98, 176
position	73, 187
position	94, 198
position	115, 186
position	131, 189
position	141, 186
position	166, 197
position	193, 177
position	222, 157
position	247, 152
position	245, 168
position	276, 185
position	297, 209
position	230, 183
position	248, 178
position	309, 180
position	305, 218
position	304, 206
position	374, 239
position	384, 250
position	105, 201
position	80, 180
position	91, 190
position	105, 192
position	177, 174
position	186, 163
position	262, 156
position	214, 189


event	plague 		black_death_3
date	220
position	312, 31
position	17, 76
position	41, 92
position	51, 114
position	43, 119
position	19, 114
position	11, 125
position	28, 126
position	49, 134
position	36, 114
position	19, 144
position	37, 152
position	51, 150
position	35, 62
position	66, 192
position	76, 199
position	95, 207
position	111, 211
position	126, 202
position	56, 214
position	77, 216
position	19, 135
position	69, 226
position	70, 235
position	47, 227
position	114, 220
position	103, 213 
position	161, 202
position	179, 194
position	198, 193
position	209, 197
position	141, 205
position	181, 206
position	140, 226
position	170, 222
position	142, 244
position	180, 230
position	199, 214
position	15, 154
position	253, 200
position	282, 244
position	309, 241
position	355, 259
position	127, 212
position	137, 199
position	154, 211
position	155, 233
;position	vjatka
;position	yelabuga

event	plague 		black_death_4
date	222
position	304, 266
position	283, 260
position	240, 280
position	255, 273
position	256, 237
position	248, 241
position	250, 255
position	224, 239
position	212, 235
position	164, 246
position	172, 247
position	193, 253
position	210, 260
position	174, 265
position	206, 275
position	154, 276
position	116, 281
position	32, 229
position	57, 248
position	49, 258

Not sure where the chance of a RNG plague is referenced in an editable manner though, let alone the health/population-RNG link.

descr_disasters has something, though looks like just RNG

event		plague
frequency	20
winter		false
summer		false
min_scale	1
max_scale	4

[Lifthrasir]

I think that you can only edit how the Black Death spread through the map (origin, where it expands, how fast, etc...).
Regarding the local plague, I think that you can only edit its frequency. I'm not a specialist about events.

Anyway, we won't change this feature just to please one person. There are enough tutorials in the workshop to let him do himself if it is what he wants.

[Alavaria]

Yeah, I was surprised as I have 90% of the map and only occasionally see plague occur in the settlements.

Actually, I'm reminded of very early on, when the Hungarians (I think) kept on using spies which constantly reinfected North Italy with plague over and over until finally my own defensive spies managed to kill them all off. Very annoying, that.

[Jurand of Cracow]

Yeah, I was surprised as I have 90% of the map and only occasionally see plague occur in the settlements

I'd guess that it's the result of the plague spread by trade. If the AI doesn't build many health buildings, it's likely to have frequent plagues, and it's likely to spread through trade. But if you conquer almost whole map and keep your cities clean, you don't get so many plagues. Does it make sense?

[Lifthrasir]

Yes, I think it works that way.

[Sar1n]

Maybe you are mismanaging it. Don't forget that characters, including captains, generals and agents, can get infected too, and infect the city in turn just by passing through it. So if a plague erupts in a settlement, if you keep any character in it (garrisson exluded), it can create a perpetual infection. If a city "heals" before character in it does, it'll get reinfected by character, and if character happens to heal before the city in which he is, he'll get reinfected too. This also affects other factions' spies, so a hidden spy might serve as a biological weapon.