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    Default Re: Faction Revamp mini-mod (Latest update 24 January)

    Unit that might be added

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    Anyway, are Georgian gunners only consist of Pkhovian or can be consist from other folks?
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    woow cool georgians gunners indeed. Although I would like if possible you could remodel the Armenian units and perhaps some Cuman units (due to their proximity to the Georgians) and that perhaps it would be easier for you to reuse textures for them.
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    No, we don't want pkhoveli this time. At first, Guns were expensive. Therefore, such a unit was formed only by King of the kingdom. It is known that the king of Kakheti - Alexander ( kingdom of Kakheti - one Georgian kingdoms after collapse of United Kingdom of Georgia) had a 500-man gunners' unit - Methope. is Better if Georgian gunners appear very late in game. Let's make a Georgian gunner like this

    unit name -Methope

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    gun- was of such a Persian-Turkish type.




    And shoot like this west european gunner with a stick. If it is done like this it will be good. But it is not very necessary.I know it can be difficult to do it






    cutting weapon-curved Georgian sword of the late period+ Caucasian dagger for decoration
    A shield is not required

    Clothes - georgian late period peasant clothes ,Some wore short sleeved chain mail armor. some have ellbow guard.







    Shoes - high boots

    Helmets -misiurka

    helmets have open ,because chain covering face prevents you from shooting


    + such misiurka like this circassian warrior




    I will post the description of the unit in 1-2 days. A military historian friend will write in literary English.Because my English is bad
    Last edited by Khevsur; January 30, 2024 at 12:31 PM. Reason: edit clothes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khevsur View Post
    + such misiurka like this circassian warrior
    Anyway, this one could be a nice variation for late Aznauri, or a lighter variant for late Msakhureuli i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by umbracatervae777 View Post
    Anyway, this one could be a nice variation for late Aznauri, or a lighter variant for late Msakhureuli i think
    You can give This conical Misiurka -Methope, some Msakhureuli and some Metsikhovne.

    Aznauri, Tadzreuli, Chukhchi - this is already a heavy elite, so it is better to give them other, more protected helmets-wavel type and Turkish-Persian type .

    Misiurka is a light helmet. Pkhoveli-give them a low and more face covered misiurka
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    The body armour i mean. It will be better if i give some surcoat rather than just a chainmail or chest disc

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    Quote Originally Posted by umbracatervae777 View Post
    The body armour i mean. It will be better if i give some surcoat rather than just a chainmail or chest disc
    no.
    Such clothing - without sleeves - is not seen in later historical paintings, nor in reality. It is more of a Circassian clothing. Let's stay as we have already planned

    You can use a chest disc for msakhureuli , aznauri, tadzreuli, chukhchi .Also use laminar armor - with long horizontal plates-for aznauri, tadzreuli, chukhchi
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    Will the new models of Georgian units be included in the next version of sship mod?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j.a.luna View Post
    Will the new models of Georgian units be included in the next version of sship mod?
    Not at the moment. The mini mod modifies several files other than the EDU and battle_models.modeldb, and some units - such as the "caucasus hillmen" - have been removed, which requires some thought before including this mini mod.
    The integration, in addition to being delicate, will take place with @Jurand's approval a little later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kostic View Post
    Not at the moment. The mini mod modifies several files other than the EDU and battle_models.modeldb, and some units - such as the "caucasus hillmen" - have been removed, which requires some thought before including this mini mod.
    The integration, in addition to being delicate, will take place with @Jurand's approval a little later.
    In the next version of this mini-mod, following next SSHIP update. I plan to bring back Caucasus Hillmen

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    Default Re: Faction Revamp mini-mod (Latest update 24 January)

    When Umbra finishes the late period units, I will continue work for unit reskin mod.


    Caucasian Hillmen? I think levy spearmen and levy archer would be better (with the visual of a Georgian peasant). late Circassian cavalry or Vainakh infantry would be interesting.
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    Default Re: Faction Revamp mini-mod (Latest update 24 January)

    I resumed work.

    late period georgian helmet





    When the Georgian units of the late period will be made. I will reskin them in details
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    Methope
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    Firearms were introduced in Georgia in XV-XVI centuries. Ottomans used cannons and handguns in military campaigns against the Georgian kingdom of Imereti and the principality of Samtskhe. Some of these weapons were captured by the Georgians, but they didn't use them regularly before the 17th century, when the Georgian kings of Kakheti, formed their first musketeer regiment of five hundred strong. Kakheti was a vassal state to Safavid Iran and their armies fought in the wars against the Ottomans in the beginning of the 17th century. Supposedly formation and the tactics of the Kakhetian musketeer regiment were influenced by the Ottoman and the Safavid armies and the Russian Streltsy guard units formed by Ivan IV of Russia.

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    Default Re: Faction Revamp mini-mod (Latest update 14 April)

    UPDATE!

    Now compatible with March version!


    List of changelogs:


    Changes in Georgian roster

    New units:
    -Egrisian Cavalry-light horse archer
    -Methope-gunner
    -Caucasus Hillmen-light infantry (restored)(AOR unit)

    Unit changes:
    -Glekhi Militia

    • Require a tier 3 city barracks or a tier 2 castle barracks to train
    • Their stats are stronger than their spearmen counterpart but with slower replenishment

    -Metsikhovne

    • Both spearmen and archer visual now match each other

    -Pkhovian Warriors


    • Have frighten_foot attribute
    • Become Georgian exclusive unit, but still potential rebel spawn
    • Their stats now closer to Almughavars but with weaker javelin attack and stronger morale

    -Mokme

    • Repurposed as tier 1 landowner units, which means Aznauri and Aznauri Archers become tier 2 and 3 respectively
    • Their stats now match with any tier 1 feudal knight units

    -Monaspa

    • Both mounted and foot now trainable after Monaspa Reform event. Initially in Georgian heartlands
    • Require tier 3 stables or archery range for their respective buildings
    • Their level 2 upgrade now represent Msakhureuli units to make up limited unit slots


    Campaign map changes:
    - All starting Pkhovian Warriors now reverted back to Caucasus Hillmen, save for one
    - Starting Foot Chukhchi replaced with Foot Mokme
    - Starting Aznauri units replaced with Mokme with their respective units
    - Starting Monaspa replaced with Alan Horse Archers

    Script changes:
    - Monaspa Reform requires to win battles 25 times, increased from 10 times

    Other Changes

    Unit changes:
    - ME Trebuchet, Bombard, Grand Bombard, and Cannon now merged with respective NE units. Using garrison units as new unit model
    - EE Peasants removed from EDU
    - This means 2 unit slots are vacant





    Screenshots

    (NOTE:The visuals is still a temporary placeholder which will be improved later)
    Spoiler for Methope


    Spoiler for Egrisian Cavalry


    Spoiler for new Caucasus Hillmen


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    Default Re: Faction Revamp mini-mod (Latest update 14 April)

    it's good .


    The gunners' helmets would then be replaced by helmets of a later period.


    Caucasian hillmen - I think the visuals of the kostic units are better, just the chain coifs and leather furs should be fixed.


    Georgian siege vehicles should have service personnel similar to the visuals of Georgian peasants


    I'm waiting late period units - for to do detailed reskins. Now I make - helmets, shields and weapons.
    Last edited by Khevsur; April 14, 2024 at 06:03 AM.
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    Default Re: Faction Revamp mini-mod (Latest update 14 April)

    Great job @Umbra! I should try your mini-mod in the next few weeks. You propose your own version of the "Caucasus Hillmen" and that's your choice. From a historical point of view, I can't say if they're more accurate than mine. It's a matter of interpretation. The important thing is that they're believable for the player!

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    Default Re: Faction Revamp mini-mod (Latest update 14 April)

    I continue to work on late period helmets
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