Do Recruitable Generals (e.g. Client Rulers) Really Reduce the Number of Children?

[Pooploop]

Yeah, as the title asks. Is it factually verified that the more client generals you have or recruit, the less the number of children born in your faction's family tree?

[Goffredo85]

I've seen conflicting opinions through the years. Some say they do count, some others say they don't as they are not actually part of the family tree. I think no one can be certain for sure despite what they say.

[Pooploop]

Dang, the (certain) answer to this question might very well affect the long term strategies of many players throughout their entire campaign. Like whether or not it is even worth building up client states rather than various forms of more direct rule (the manner the governments take depends on the culture), when a sad side effect is that factions with royal houses might very well have no direct heirs in the very near future.

There are certain regions where the sheer quality and quantity of their unique units make having them as client states the whole campaign from start to finish be very well a good tradeoff. Then again, however, ughh...for rp heavy guys, limiting your royal house's progeny is sometimes so painful.

[Jurand of Cracow]

Yeah, as the title asks. Is it factually verified that the more client generals you have or recruit, the less the number of children born in your faction's family tree?

I think it's one of more firmly established observations on the Med2 engine that's true.

[QuintusSertorius]

I think it's one of more firmly established observations on the Med2 engine that's true.

Yep, exactly this.

[Slaytaninc]

Maybe instead of a physical ruler we can use increase the cost of the government type? The game suggests making wealthy regions clients so it probably ends up paying for itself.

[Pooploop]

Very true. Like some sort of advanced government that obviously states that a client ruler is in residence (in the description and in the name) without having to have a guy with a bodyguard unit actually take up valuable progeny space. Then a a couple of traits to appear for roleplaying purposes for any actual family member staying in the province with said advanced government is present like: "Friends with Client Ruler", "In conflict with client ruler", "patron of client ruler", or even "lover of client ruler" (hey ceasar and the bithynians - or some other asia minor princeling), and so on and so on.