Implementing Xenophonia mod into SSHIP

**bigdaddy1204** · October 17, 2015, 08:58 AM

Hi all, just had an idea - a long time ago, a mod called Xenophonia was released for Medieval 2 Total War. That mod made all factions speak their native languages, by using the audio files from the local versions of the game (German, Spanish, French, Italian, etc) and installing them into the English version. Wouldn't it be cool to do something similar in SSHIP? Is there any way we could do something like this too?

**Lifthrasir** · October 17, 2015, 11:34 AM

It's possible to do that but would requier a hell of work. Not part of our project for now.

**MWY** · October 19, 2015, 07:11 AM

I remember doing this for my own mod quite a while back.. it wasn't actually that difficult. But when users in here are already complaining because we use faction names in native language, I doubt everyone would be happy with completely native speaking factions.

**achilles-91** · October 19, 2015, 10:40 AM

Wow... This would be great actualy IF it is possible, assuming time puted in doing it.

**Swarbs** · October 19, 2015, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by MWY

I remember doing this for my own mod quite a while back.. it wasn't actually that difficult. But when users in here are already complaining because we use faction names in native language, I doubt everyone would be happy with completely native speaking factions.

Could also open up a can of worms for factions which don't have native language files, or at least not an exact match. For example, will the Aragonese speak Spanish, and if so how annoyed would Aragonese and Catalan nationalists be?

**Larkin** · October 21, 2015, 12:18 AM

I think we should introduce a Xenophobia mod. Where all the Islamic factions are just "terrorist", the French surrender, and all the English units can only drink tea.

**Eldgrimr** · October 21, 2015, 05:36 AM

A Xenophonia mod would be great!

**bigdaddy1204** · October 22, 2015, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Larkin

I think we should introduce a Xenophobia mod. Where all the Islamic factions are just "terrorist"

Lol, CA already pretty much did that with the Muslim factions 'voice'. The phrases are very bloodthirsty and inaccurate. "Infidels to kill, Sultan?" It doesn't reflect the actual nature of Islamic culture and civilisation in that period at all, which was highly civilised and much more tolerant than the western nations of the time. Tbh, the Muslim faction voice acting needs to be started again from scratch. Separate voices should be implemented for the Turks and the Arab factions, since they are completely different and don't even speak the same language. And the general tone should be much more chivalrous and honourable. For example, the Byzantine 'voice' seems pretty honourable. The Arab and Turkish voices should be like that, too. I seem to remember in the old Rome Total Realism mod, the modding community actually recorded its own audio for the voices of the various factions. There's no reason the same couldn't be done for Medieval 2.

**+Marius+** · October 22, 2015, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by bigdaddy1204

"Infidels to kill, Sultan?" It doesn't reflect the actual nature of Islamic culture and civilisation in that period at all, which was highly civilised and much more tolerant than the western nations of the time.

The age of tolerant Islam was already over by the 11th century and was replaced by various other, far less tolerant, narratives of Islam.

The movie El Cid pictures this perfectly;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rCG5-7E7Ao

But you are absolutely right, the Muslim voices are like caricatures, they should have just hired a couple of Arab speakers and make them say poetic stuff.
Would probably cost the same if not even less(if they hired much cheaper voice actors from the Middle East).

To be fair, all voices could be a lot better.

**jurcek1987** · October 22, 2015, 12:22 PM

I wouldn't change the hilariously bad German voices for anything.

YAAA KAISAAAAR AJ WLLL GOOOOO
YOU ARE NOT MY KAISAAAAAR

**bigdaddy1204** · October 22, 2015, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Marius Marich

To be fair, all voices could be a lot better.

I dunno, I quite like the princess voices... Very sexy!

But yes, characters speaking their own language is always going to be more realistic

**jurcek1987** · October 24, 2015, 06:12 AM

This is a minor complaint, but speaking of voices, I noticed that Armenian units use Muslim voices

**Swarbs** · October 25, 2015, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Larkin

I think we should introduce a Xenophobia mod. Where all the Islamic factions are just "terrorist", the French surrender, and all the English units can only drink tea.

Also the Russians are permanently allied with the rebels, and plague is replaced by "Collateral damage from American bombing"

**bigdaddy1204** · October 26, 2015, 04:59 AM

Originally Posted by Swarbs

Also the Russians are permanently allied with the rebels, and plague is replaced by "Collateral damage from American bombing"

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