Disappointed about units formations

**somatophylakes** · September 05, 2016, 07:41 AM

I'm very disappointed that (at least) human and dwarfs units can't develop a proper battle formation against enemies... a proper "shield wall" or "square formation" or a simple phalanx ? i know there is the "shield wall" ability, but you can see that units don't move themselves so as to form a proper shield wall, they just stay in the same formation... I would have liked to see a shield wall like that from the dwarfs in "The Hobbit - The battle of the five armies", that was a very cool shield wall/phalanx, or at least something similar on that. Orcs and vampire counts must not have these formations for obvious reasons...

**The Holy Pilgrim** · September 05, 2016, 10:59 AM

Yeah, I know what you mean.

Kind of weird that they didn't at the very least include loose formation. Then the Orcs might actually have a chance against Dwarfen artillery

**RGA** · September 05, 2016, 01:33 PM

Long story short, AI cannot handle special unit formation.

**♘Top Hat Zebra** · September 06, 2016, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by RGA

Long story short, AI cannot handle special unit formation.

"AI can't handle formations."

"AI can't handle trading regions."

"AI can't handle armies without generals."

"AI can't handle building roads."

"AI can't handle naval invasions."

What are they going to take away next? Real time battles? The entire economy? I would rather the AI be able to use them well, but even if they couldn't, at least let the player use them. They look so much better.

**somatophylakes** · September 06, 2016, 08:53 AM

They improve gameplay

**johnny_b_good** · September 06, 2016, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by RGA

Long story short, AI cannot handle special unit formation.

+it cant handle verious terrain, so its all FLAT!

**RGA** · September 06, 2016, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by johnny_b_good

+it cant handle verious terrain, so its all FLAT!

IMHO AI can handle various terrain pretty well: it knows the principle of occupying high ground and use forest to mask its movement. And no, like 50% of my battles are on mountainous terrain, too much for my liking honestly.

**KAM 2150** · September 06, 2016, 03:01 PM

Attila had pretty good AI formation usage. Maybe nothing with grand plan in mind, but it was able to use them when it was supposed to do so.

**Garensterz** · September 07, 2016, 02:47 AM

One of the reasons why I'm hesitant to buy TW Warhammer, and dissappointed as well knowing that all over these years TW games still lacks authentic/proper battle formations. I'd really wish we could see some authentic formations such as these in CA's next TW title:

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