Is this forum becoming obsolete?

[craziii]

I 100% disagree on the history addicts. this forum was super active for like 2-3 months when warhammer was release. it just didn't keep up like rome 2 did. that is when mods are suppose to kick in. the mod launcher being part of steam without a working standalone version( I tried really hard to make it work but gave up ) and steamworkshop took care of that.

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

There are a couple of big modding projects going on for newer games, I don't really know what people are complaining about. Atilla has a Lord of the Rings mod, a Westeros mod, a mod to change it to the later Medieval era, and a mod to send it straight back to the height of the Roman Republic. That's four major overhauls, two of which aren't even affected by the lack of map modding. At least not horribly so.

Warhammer just recently got a battle map editor, and modders have already put their custom battle maps into the campaign.



I only come to TWC for two reasons, to see Radious' changelogs, and to see if any interesting Total War/modding news has popped up. In older days, I would come to talk about Total War games, but a good majority of the time threads either devolve into bashing CA or just die out after a few posts. You have to go back to December of last year to find a thread with more than three pages, and that one wasn't even on topic.

[Totalheadache]

Also the rampant negativity that has ruled here since Rome 2 was released turned a lot of posters away who really just wanted to discuss the games and not go into a hostile debate on developer ethics. The CA staff used to post here as well but they are gone too.

Honestly as I think warhammer is an excellent game, ive been posting more on the official forums than in this subforum. I use TWC for keeping up with mods and the non-tw parts and the official forum to discuss Warhammer tw.

Rampant negativity? What on earth are you talking about?

Stop making excuses. A lot of people have been turned off by a lot of fanboy type posting and also because of the current DLC policy meaning they arent playing Warhammer.

Why would you when the the game isnt finished? I dont come here much because am not playing the current game until all DLC is released and it goes on sale and also I used to like helping out on the technical side but when CA refuse to shell out for a new engine I dont see why I should put the effort in to help people with technical issues and their games. (for free out of the kindness of my heart).

And CA staff arguably dont post because well why would they? A lot of the time it's rubbish pr/marketing they do pre-release or you telling me the years you have been here you havent noticed this? You dont remember some of their marketing fiascos?

The brown screenshot anyone....not showing any real gameplay...the list can go on and on...?!? And the diary things they did were more like a failed slap stick comedy session...I didnt mind them persay but really it was more of an embarassment. You want me to refresh people memories here?

Oh and my all time favourite "the reason for the stuggling framerates is because the game was designed for gpus which arent released yet" Haha. That was a classic. Classically bad.

They will be back when they want to hype up the next release. It's how it goes.

In fact most people would say posting on the official forum is obsolete. Or pointless. This forum I suspect is just having a quiet period. Happens.

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

Pretty sure that's what he's talking about.

[tgoodenow]

This forum has a vastly superior mod subsection. Thing is, total war warhammer doesn't really have any mods. So I come here to check on DEI, ancient empires, and medieval kingdoms mod progress. I go to the main forum for warhammer news. I used to be able to come here for both but the warhammer forum is not very active and CA doesn't here post often.

[keldor]

Totalheadache has a point. Rome II locked out sparta as a preorder bonus. Chaos for warhammer. Thats just a couple of things CA is doing thats making people so negative. Final nail in coffin not worth the effort to make the campaign map modable. Since medieval II. Only one game has one mod that has a campaign map overhaul and thats for shogun II. Not sure if you can apply the same method to games after shogun II.

[Totalheadache]

Totalheadache has a point. Rome II locked out sparta as a preorder bonus. Chaos for warhammer. Thats just a couple of things CA is doing thats making people so negative. Final nail in coffin not worth the effort to make the campaign map modable. Since medieval II. Only one game has one mod that has a campaign map overhaul and thats for shogun II. Not sure if you can apply the same method to games after shogun II.

Of course I have a point am telling the truth! Look dont get me wrong I enjoy the games and if it wasnt for the current DLC policy which I think is ruining the game I'd be playing.

Who wants to put hours into a game and then for them to release new factions which arguably put a whole new spin on the campaign? Some might argue "I am playing at the moment and when more factions come I'll just carry on or restart".

That's fine but there's a load of people am sure who play other games and think well I can do this and that and save money to play later. (plus I have another big hobby now so am playing less and less games...such is life ha).

Plus a lot of my gripe is probably directed at the senior management. Look at the current release of the map editor? Who cares? If it were for single player campaign...amazing but really am pretty sure it's a minority who care about mp battles. I just saw lionhearts youtube vid and it looks like great fun.

But as he himself points out these are some of the maps we should have had in the campaign no? Am hoping when I finally play the elven campaign there will be more than one map for unwalled settlements...

Plus this so called "negativity" are actually from people who are far from negative, who in fact want the series to be better and still believe it will happen. I include myself in this category.

p.s Brettonia did it really take them that long to do this faction? I know it's free but....

[♔atthias♔]

Of course I have a point am telling the truth! Look dont get me wrong I enjoy the games and if it wasnt for the current DLC policy which I think is ruining the game I'd be playing.

Who wants to put hours into a game and then for them to release new factions which arguably put a whole new spin on the campaign? Some might argue "I am playing at the moment and when more factions come I'll just carry on or restart".

That's fine but there's a load of people am sure who play other games and think well I can do this and that and save money to play later. (plus I have another big hobby now so am playing less and less games...such is life ha).

Plus a lot of my gripe is probably directed at the senior management. Look at the current release of the map editor? Who cares? If it were for single player campaign...amazing but really am pretty sure it's a minority who care about mp battles. I just saw lionhearts youtube vid and it looks like great fun.

But as he himself points out these are some of the maps we should have had in the campaign no? Am hoping when I finally play the elven campaign there will be more than one map for unwalled settlements...

Plus this so called "negativity" are actually from people who are far from negative, who in fact want the series to be better and still believe it will happen. I include myself in this category.

p.s Brettonia did it really take them that long to do this faction? I know it's free but....

Rampant negativity? What on earth are you talking about?

Stop making excuses. A lot of people have been turned off by a lot of fanboy type posting and also because of the current DLC policy meaning they arent playing Warhammer.

Why would you when the the game isnt finished? I dont come here much because am not playing the current game until all DLC is released and it goes on sale and also I used to like helping out on the technical side but when CA refuse to shell out for a new engine I dont see why I should put the effort in to help people with technical issues and their games. (for free out of the kindness of my heart).

And CA staff arguably dont post because well why would they? A lot of the time it's rubbish pr/marketing they do pre-release or you telling me the years you have been here you havent noticed this? You dont remember some of their marketing fiascos?

The brown screenshot anyone....not showing any real gameplay...the list can go on and on...?!? And the diary things they did were more like a failed slap stick comedy session...I didnt mind them persay but really it was more of an embarassment. You want me to refresh people memories here?

Oh and my all time favourite "the reason for the stuggling framerates is because the game was designed for gpus which arent released yet" Haha. That was a classic. Classically bad.

They will be back when they want to hype up the next release. It's how it goes.

In fact most people would say posting on the official forum is obsolete. Or pointless. This forum I suspect is just having a quiet period. Happens.

Pretty sure that's what he's talking about.

your posts that is what pasan is talking about dont you see you are doing the same as the post or people you critized?

[Totalheadache]

your posts that is what pasan is talking about dont you see you are doing the same as the post or people you critized?

Well if he was referring to my posts thats why I answered

Nevermind...

p.s criticism can be constructrive..I think that's something you and others are failing to grasp. Dont worry about it too much! It can be a bit of advanced/forward way of thinking....it gets easier as you are older/wiser.

I.e You can still love the series whilst bringing into debate all the things possible of criticism. This forum's major malfunction is for certain members inability to discuss things rationally. Last few posts are just backing up everything I say...you are proving my points.

[Totalheadache]

It's a shame as still the games are alright! In fact I'd just about give Warhammer an 8/10. (and thats because when all the factions are released I think that's what it will be).

I have said it before but I think the buck stops with Mike Simpson. He holds the purse strings.

[KAM 2150]

I would say it depends on the topic. For example our DeI submoforum here has pretty constant amount of 50-60 people view it and around triple of that value when we are nearing release date of some bigger update. I guess once new DLC/FLC for Warhammer comes in or even better, new game, TWC will bit a bit more alive. While I do like Warhammer, there is nothing much to talk about lately, outside modding scene of course.

[LestaT]

When I joined the forums years ago, it was all about finding information about games and future content whether they're about expansions or dlcs or even fanmade mods.

Those were the days before FB, twitter etc. What makes me stick was the ambience. Yes there are fanboys and there are hateboys around but still information that I seek are coming around.

Nowadays it's different. Steam workshop shouldn't be the reason because the official forum is still alive while TWC is almost dead.

New games, old games would not matter. When ETW came out, I still frequent RTW forums because I'm not interested in guns warfare much. So for me, regardless whether one like Warhammer or not, people will still come for older games if the ambience is right. Now, sadly for me it's not and has not been since.post Rome2 release.

[Yerevan]

This is relative, the Shogun 2 forum looks like an old altar abandoned in ruins, when the M2TW's modding forum is still alive and kicking.

About fanboys, for me the problem wasn't their opinion concerning the greatness of Rome 2 but the fact that they were always invoking "moral" concepts like negativity to diminish contradictory elements. This sanctimonious attitude poisoned the debates. Fights over empire total war were much harder but you didn't have on one side some posters whining about or the other side was too critical, or too negative or that they should be happy with what they have. Rhet were adressiung the arguments, not judging the poster. On another hand calling somebody a "fanboy'' isn't a good start either.

3) Change in the TW Setting, i.e. Warhammer. Frankly speaking, the Warhammer TW has been praised by the press and without doubt the TW formula and Warhammer universe blend quite well. But I think the "old crowd" of TW Players are to some good degree "history addicted", because this was the traditional TW Setting. It might be that with changing to the Warhammer lore, TW gained some new users (Warhammer fans), but I also think quite some number of "old TW fans" are losing interest in TW if there is no new historical title.

That's the first thing that came to my mind when I read the OP.

[Lifthrasir]

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