Christmas is a coming

[basics]

Some people think that family meals are 'uncomfortable' and that their taxes would be better off spent on huge war machines than on beautiful lighting.Such people should be blessed by Christ fast.They need it.And whats bad in spending my own hard earned money on great occasions like this.Yes i am a stereotypical consumer.
I enjoy the Christmas Las Vegas style. Las Vegas is bedecked like a bride for the 25th though behind it all is the quest to get more gamblers.Free drinks and free chips to gamble.

mad orc,

Yet you know that that is not what Christmas is all about.

[Gaidin]

it has worked for some two thousand odd years and is still working.

You know Christmas is only 1000 years old right?

[Owlparrot3]

mad orc,

Yet you know that that is not what Christmas is all about.

Yeah but yet,its a holiday after all.

[Sir Adrian]

You know Christmas is only 1000 years old right?

Not true.

[basics]

You know Christmas is only 1000 years old right?

Gaidin,

And you know or should know that Jesus was predicted at the fall of man some 6 thousand years ago. So, in celebrating His birth which was over 2 thousand years ago makes your figures out somewhat. The man on whom Santa Clause is based and the giving he did was around 270 A.D. which makes that around 17 hundred years ago. Therefore what's the Christmas you are talking about?

[Emperor Arcturus Mengsk]

Gaidin,

And you know or should know that Jesus was predicted at the fall of man some 6 thousand years ago. So, in celebrating His birth which was over 2 thousand years ago makes your figures out somewhat. The man on whom Santa Clause is based and the giving he did was around 270 A.D. which makes that around 17 hundred years ago. Therefore what's the Christmas you are talking about?

He means that christmas is a copied pagan holiday.

[fkizz]

Merry Christmas to everyone;

No need to be submissive to political correctness and just say "Happy Winter Holydays" to not offend other Creeds (paganism included);

Well my understanding of Christmas is that it isnt actually Christ's birthday but the Church taking the winter solstice (an important pagan day) and incorporating it into their religion.

Winter Solstice is important in any religious/spiritual movement.
"Pagan" is extremely generalistic. Can mean so many different religions it's very unclear to what it actually means stated in such way.

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Santa Claus comes from Saint Nicholas, a Christian Saint. Santa Claus being a big thing in Christmas, I don't think it can be claimed his historical character of origin to be "pagan" when it's a Christian saint.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas

[bigdaddy1204]

I think Christmas is theoretically a day to commemorate the birth of Jesus. I see Santa Claus everywhere but not the one person this day is named after.
The image of Christmas seems very commercialised and people focus on shopping and spending money... isn't that the opposite of what this day should be about? I mean the spiritual aspect of Jesus message seems lost, replaced by a dude who rides reindeer. It is a bit strange.

[Gaidin]

I think Christmas is theoretically a day to commemorate the birth of Jesus. I see Santa Claus everywhere but not the one person this day is named after.
The image of Christmas seems very commercialised and people focus on shopping and spending money... isn't that the opposite of what this day should be about? I mean the spiritual aspect of Jesus message seems lost, replaced by a dude who rides reindeer. It is a bit strange.

It's because Christmas is no longer just a religious holiday. It's a national holiday. The many traditions of the feast, decorations, and gifts literally require no religion at all. And anybody non-christian or atheist will tell anybody to screw right off because they just enjoy spending that time with their family doing those things. Religious people that want to do religious things? Have at it. But it's evolved.

[basics]

Anyway, it's now Christmas Eve, time to hang up your stocking and hope that Santa will leave that present you always wanted but never got. So, to all and sundry, have a great day, a day where we can all relax without having to hear of some poor beggars having been blown to bits across the world. Make it be a day of birth rather than death and may God bless each one of you in some way as to make it a perfect day. Merry Christmas.

[bigdaddy1204]

Anyway, it's now Christmas Eve, time to hang up your stocking and hope that Santa will leave that present you always wanted but never got. So, to all and sundry, have a great day, a day where we can all relax without having to hear of some poor beggars having been blown to bits across the world. Make it be a day of birth rather than death and may God bless each one of you in some way as to make it a perfect day. Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas to you basics and many good wishes for a happy and successful year ahead.

[basics]

Merry Christmas to you basics and many good wishes for a happy and successful year ahead.

bigdaddy,

Merry Christmas to you and to everyone else.

[Gaidin]

HAPPY WINTERSDAY!

[basics]

OK, we are now entering the last hours of 2017 which hopefully can pass peacefully. For lots of us the past year was an up and down one so lets hope that next year is more ups than downs. So folks, may I wish everyone a very happy new year.