Milan and Venice.
And we still have our rivalries. Until I can get to Crete that is.
England and France
Venice and Milan
turks and byzantine
scotland and england
spain and moors
portugal and spain
egypt and turks
poland and hungary
hungary and byzantine
egypt and byzantine
poland and germany
the papacy and your faction...
portugal and moors
danes and russians
sicily and moors
milan and france
france and germany
spain and france
spain and aztecs
mongols and timurids
Milan and Venice.
And we still have our rivalries. Until I can get to Crete that is.
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Actually from 1000 to the fall of the Byzantine Empire, Hungary and the Byzantines were allies except for a time during the 13th century, so that is out. Hungary and Poland didn't really fight that often either. In truth Hungary spent most of the time trying to unify the nearby regions, and then it was a fight with the Mongols and Ottomans, two pretty tough opponents.
I would say Hungary vs. Mongols or Turks. But Byzantines vs. Turks, France vs. England, and Spain vs. the Moors are also good ones. Tough decision overall. My vote probably has to go with Byzantines vs. Turks, a bit of a boring choice but there is too much history there to ignore.
Byzantines vs. Venice would have been another good one.
For me it always seems to be scotland and france allied against england
Definately Germany and France.
The Timurids were the followers of Timur the Lame, who lost a good deal of the use of one leg in battle due to an arrow wound. He married into the family of Genghis Khan but when he came to power he only used the title amir, never khan. He was born in Samarkand while it was owned by the "Golden Horde" (Chagatai Khanate). He was actually much more Turkish than Mongol, however. Personally, I like this map so I'll share it:
In answer to your question, not really, it was just something that grew out of the Mogol lands after the death of Genghis and the disintegration of his power.
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France and England are like the perfect enemies because they counter balance eachother so well.
They both have relatively the same infantry, and France has Uber cavalry which normally owns archers. But england has those nice stakes that make it against eachother.
Plus france is Uber in size and population compared to England so for them to keep up the fight is pretty impressive, especially since England's navy wasn't always the best one around.
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my favorite choice isn't there... ANYONE VS. MILAN!..annoying milanese, always betraying you as soon as you have somehow a border with them....
Everyone betrays me except for my good buddy the Pope.
I went with england and france because we beat the french in some great battles.
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Agincourt, Crecy, Poitiers.. the list goes on
England and France without a doubt!
Mongols and Timurids. They destroy each other's big bad armies.
Now, now, come on...we are getting off topic...isn't this supposedly to be regarding rivalries in-game?
Snboopy: In my games, so, far, mongols always owns timurids, as much, timurids retain only damascus and antioch while all the rest of turkey, egypt and as much as nicoea and part of the russian steppes belonged to the mongols (in the biggets one ti have seen of the mongols).
Me vs. Milan
The main question of interest being:
"What sort of jackass thing will they do this time to force me to squash them?"
When you have a camp divided, find a common enemy and declare war - Machiavelli
/agree recluse. milan always does some stupid **** that just forces my wrath upon them. no matter how much i offer them forgiveness and peace, they always want to try to siege my cities with stack of nothing of ballistae and crossbow militia.
i never have good fights with them, i always just end up completely and utterly destroying them with minimal loses.