I am a dedicated DLV player, or maybe not?

**Patient English** · September 23, 2009, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Taiji

I play other mods too, and see things I like that DLV lacks, but then they get boring. It's usually a case of feeling like I'm playing vanilla after a while, when I try other mods.

I would like to see a load of things changed... the map... some of the factions... some of the artwork... but the game itself is amazing.

So many ideas that are so good they make other mods seem flat and boring.

DLV had given me hundreds of hours of awesome gameplay before I began work on it. Since starting to mod it I've played for thousands and it's still great, I still miss it when I play other mods. But modding for it has taken some of the fun out of it. I really like to explore new units and tactics, and of course designing that side of things ruins any exploration. I don't usually fall for all the traps I've set

Spot on. Says it all, really. DLV's map could be improved (get rid of America) and there are some hard-coded elements that only M:TW3 will fix, but DLV has extended a 7/10, 3-month game into a 9/10 3+ year game for me. 70+ hours per week, I reckon. Repman and Taiji get +n Rep, but if they have PayPal accounts or similar, I would be happy to contribute towards their beer fund....

**Alatar98** · September 23, 2009, 07:54 PM

ive played other mods but in the end i always go back to dlv

**Omar Nelson B.** · September 23, 2009, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Patient English

DLV's map could be improved (get rid of America)

Haha never will happen.

**AreysAK** · October 25, 2009, 04:34 AM

I generally play DLV, even if sometimes I have to deal with a problem that makes me wanna throw my computer out of the window (at times it happens that when I'm loading a saved game I just get a black screen!! But probably it's just a problem of the old version I'm still using...)!! I've tried some others, not so many I must confess, like kindoms grand campaign or third age, but DLV is still my favourite because I particularly like its complexity and greater realism...And the simplest things are maybe the most pleasant: for example the use of the names of factions and units in their original language!! Probably it's not the only mod doing it, but it's a great number of this kind of things all put together to make it so good!

**Tokus*Maximus** · October 25, 2009, 04:53 AM

You know it's bad when you buy fresh unused editons of M2TW kingdoms gold to put away just incase your original disc gives up from scratches. As long as XP exists this game will too! I've reinstalled and got re-addicted with 6.2... Though playing as VH / VH had me swamped too quickly by far better armies (I was England). The Scots from the north, The Danes from across the sea, the Irish from Wales which they'd taken, the Flemish by sea who I'd given Normandy to as a gift. I ran a new game at H / VH and the campaign game is bearable with ALL the hard event settings on. Made Alliance with Scotland, Flanders and the Papal State so maybe I'll some peace this time (until I'll tough enough to withstand a four-front war!)

**Slon80** · October 25, 2009, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by AreysAK

I just get a black screen!!

If you are using Comodo Firewall turn off "Defence+" while playing.

Originally Posted by Tokus*Maximus

As long as XP exists this game will too!

Have no worries my friend - runs great on Win7 I tell ya.

**Red_Barron** · October 28, 2009, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Slon80

Have no worries my friend - runs great on Win7 I tell ya.

That is great to hear as I have just received my new hard drive and copy of Win7!

I would like to use this first post to give a big thank you to Repman and the Deus Lo Vult team! I have recently booted up M2TW and rediscovered your mod, and it is by far my favorite mod for the entire Total War series so far!

Keep up the good work. Now with a clean install of the game I am going to use some mini mods like BB and the text mod.

Thanks guys for breathing new life into an old game for me!

**Shaio** · October 28, 2009, 04:41 PM

My brutal, entertaining, futile, and all to short attempt with the hay is just another reason to love this mod.... even in the best i was doing everything was falling apart...

**chondo999** · October 30, 2009, 05:09 PM

There are some people that, though through no fault of their own, cannot recognize a jewel when they see one. And there are others that, through the faintest of light, can recognize a diamond in the ruff. I am the latter, for upon playing a few turns of this mod, i realized it was indeed the greatest achievement ever made in medieval 2 total war till date. VIVA DLV! It is of no surprise that 95% of my medieval 2 play time is dedicated to DLV

**LaMuerte** · November 02, 2009, 07:30 AM

A few days ago I installed DLV. As I read in a previous post here in this thread , it"s a mod you either love or hate. In my case , I really love it. My previous M2 mod experience include Stainless Steel , Darthmod and TATW.Here are a few observations after a few days of hardcore DLV-ing:

1.This mod is difficult , very difficult. It's been a few years since I got my ass whooped. Thanks

2.The level of historical detail is unbelievable. Great stuff.

3.Battles are very difficult , with a convincing BAI. Fights seem more epic,lasting longer , and the timing of a certain (counter)moves has become very important. Time your cavalry charge wrong , and you lose the fight , time it rightly and you can turn disaster into an epic win.

4.DLV makes the player plan years in advance. Invading isn't simply moving a stack into an enemy region. First time ever I had to drop a siege 'cause I couldn't support the sieging army anymore.(stuff you read about in history books)

5.Lots of options to finetune your campaign.

A very nice mod , one I intend to play a lot.

**Prodigal** · November 03, 2009, 09:33 PM

It would be cool if Deus Lo Vult had some of the Holy Roman Empire Mod(I forget the name, and I'm too lazy to copy/paste) attributes. Like Patriarchs, bishops etc...

**ssmarine** · November 13, 2009, 02:15 PM

Saying that people dont play DLV because its too hard is BS. Im an EB addict for RTW, I've played strategy games my whole life and I usually play them on the hardest levels, and I dont play DLV.

The last time I tried DLV was about a year and a half ago and they had implemented a cavalry bug to make the game "more realistic." It immediately killed my interest and I uninstalled it off my hard drive.

**Agis Tournas** · November 13, 2009, 02:31 PM

The "cavalry spread" has been fixed a long time ago...

**ssmarine** · November 13, 2009, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Agis Tournas

The "cavalry spread" has been fixed a long time ago...

I figured it would considering it was ridiculous. But when I brought it up at the time on these forums one of the DLV members went off on me saying that alot of work went into the cav spread and if I didnt like it leave. So I did.

I may try DLV again as there were a lot of cool features in it and Im sure many of the old bugs that existed are fixed. But this thread is about why or why you arent a dedicated DLV player and thats my reason.

**Agis Tournas** · November 13, 2009, 03:10 PM

I respect your opinion and I am really sorry that you faced such an attitude on the above situation.
Anyway, stay cool and enjoy playing your beloved mods...
Cheers
Agis

**Kjertesvein** · November 14, 2009, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by ssmarine

I figured it would considering it was ridiculous. But when I brought it up at the time on these forums one of the DLV members went off on me saying that alot of work went into the cav spread and if I didnt like it leave. So I did.

I think you missunderstood.[1] I don't think it was personal, but to suggesting SS animation around these parts, should never happend. It's the "It-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named."[2]. It's really an local offencive order.

BL-W

**Myshkin** · November 15, 2009, 02:49 AM

Let's have a massive go on what happened to spread animations 999 years ago.

**Taiji** · November 15, 2009, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by ssmarine

I figured it would considering it was ridiculous. But when I brought it up at the time on these forums one of the DLV members went off on me saying that alot of work went into the cav spread and if I didnt like it leave. So I did.

I may try DLV again as there were a lot of cool features in it and Im sure many of the old bugs that existed are fixed. But this thread is about why or why you arent a dedicated DLV player and thats my reason.

It's a fine reason, but then I would think so since I implemented the fix (Chim deserves the credit for making the fix in the first place).

As for fanboys not listening to criticism and being derisive towards people taking the time to give feedback, there's really nothing we can do about that kind of attitude problem and we find it everywhere, certainly not just in DLV's forum.

It's a shame because obviously we'd get more feedback if feedback got a favorable response. It doesn't need to be acted on of course, just noted and thanked. Sometimes an explanation can make the feedback null, but telling someone to go elsewhere is just ignorant and self-destructive.