Medieval Kingdoms Total War Suggestion Thread

[paulyo122]

Im not a history buff at all so this took a lot of tabs and brainpower to try get it historical or interesting. I just love the byzantine empire. Im guessing the Edict could be for the Empire of Nicaea before they reform the Byzantine Empire as well as during. idk lol

[Slytacular]

Sure! I like it!

[paulyo122]

Thanks sly! I was also thinking last night a possible decrease in the cost of mercenaries too as the Byzantines used them quite frequently. Awesome to hear you like it

[tsaren]

Hi, first of all i would like to thank you for an amazing mod, i would like to lift up ideas on the Swedish unit rooster.

Firstly the Huscarls looks very out of place, the small little shield for example is to my knowledge never been used in Scandinavia at all, as well as the 'knight robes' that seems a bit out of place aswell on the Huscarls. The original attila royal huscarls seems to have a more accurate armor that would fit for this mods time period aswell. Or atleast something similair. Scandinavia with exception of Denmark had only half left the viking age equipment wise at this period and were a mix of old nordic weaponry and armor and new continental weapons and armor.

This time period also saw the fairly unknow nordic crusades, where Denmark, Sweden and the Teutonic knights launched crusades to the east. Which perhaps could be highlighted in this mod.

And last perhaps Novgorod could be present in the mod, Alexander Nevsky is after all one of the best famous russians to ever live. Cheers and again thank you for this mod

[Filips Augustus]

They sadly couldnt add Novgorod, because the vanilla Atilla map doesnt cover that area.

[Slytacular]

@tsaren, the Huskarls are actually a combination of things. During my cruise to Alaska, I did whatever I could to find any old source material of anything and everything to do with Sweden during the Medieval Ages. There is almost no information about Sweden's medieval army composition other than Birger Jarl's reforms, the archaeological finds and sources of the Battle of Visby in Gotland, and information about the Ledung System that I can find. The Bondir (farmers in translation) represent the viking-like society that existed around Sweden before Birger Jarl's reforms. The Bondir are what would be considered using a mixture of Viking Age equipment with the contemporary 13th century, and their organization is based off of the Ledung system. Which is mostly a military coastal border patrol on Snekkes. The Hirdmen (meaning "hired men") represent the reforms from Birger Jarl who transitioned the kingdom from a Viking society to a Fuedal one, and those hirdmen are basically the men at arms of the king or any royal authority with retinue. The Huskarls are supposedly the body guards of the king and other royalty, and supposedly the most well equipped units. Normally, the Huskarls would just be a prettier, more decorated, and possibly heavier version of the redundant Hirdmen, but for gameplay reasons, I made those units a two-handed axe shock unit.

The shield idea comes from a Icelandic illustration I found on Druzhina's website. http://www.warfare.altervista.org/14/Flateyjarbok-3.htm

Historically, little bucklers are drawn on many various illustrations all over Western and Northern Europe that I felt it wouldn't wrong to include those on the Huskarls in order to spice up their appearance.

I have no idea what you mean by "knight robes." If you mean the surcoats the Huskarls wear, those would be more contemporary with the time period than what I assume in what you are describing is a unit dressed in a fashion of the Vendel Era 7th-9th century.

[Linke]

I think he simply means a long mailcoat instead of the robed mail, like used for example by similar Gaelic troops long after 1200' anyone who has followed the research has seen the "robed mail", knightly coats, in this period though. It could maybe make them a bit unique and more archaic if they had 50% or so of either

[Kjertesvein]

Hmm.

~Wille

[tsaren]

Ah look at that i had no idea they used bucklers but im glad they did, it looks really nice with the two handed axe. And i do suppose that the idea of the northen crusades should be dropped considering that as Filips saids, the area concerned doesnt exist on the map. I do have to add though that the robes over the chainmail does bug my eye i do support Linke's suggestion, but of course personal opinions matters little aslong as it is historically correct. Thank you all for the replies

[xeofox]

Sorry, but need to delete this symbol (Saka burial "Golden man"(symbol on the headdress) from Issyk - Kazakhstan). Very old culture- very old style for this mod.

[Heisenburrg]

Hi, awsome MK-Team
One question; does your mod contain the plan to change the music ingame too at a sooner or later point? Would be epic to hear old Medieval 2 themes or the Kingdom of Heaven soundtrack in Attila. I know it´s hardcoded but imo it would be one of the last bricks for a perfect medieval athmosphere (besides medieval buildings and cities of course... By the way... What are your plans with this? )

Cheers

[Spear Dog]

OMG! This mod looks epic! can't hardly wait.

[The Shark]

Pls add the timurids as a custom battle faction.

[JC_CESAR]

Saw that post on modb by KarFW :

Hello, I love your work, but can I suggest something. The Second Bulgarian Tsardom is good as it is, but I see that there aren't unique names for the units. And since I am Bulgarian I'd love to suggest to you how to rename them. Also Also I wish to see some type of knightly unit on foot. Thank you.
Unique names for units: Any Bulgarian will tell you that these names are accurate according to our language. These are literall translation, but it will give them a sense of uniquity.
Bulgarian Swordsmen - Bulgarian Mechonostzi
Bulgarian Infantry - Bulgarian Pehota
Bulgarian Spearmen - Bulgaran Kopienostzi
Bulgarian Heavy Spearmen - Bulgarian Tezhki Kopienostzi
Bulgarian Archers - Bulgarian Streltzi
Bulgarian Heavy Archers - Bulgarian Heavy Streltzi
Bulgarian Knights - Bulgarian Ritzari

[Bobi_TWR]

I am Bulgarian too and I can tell you that there weren't any bulgarian knights and I think that if we make a bit research we could suggest more original names than just translations

[lion8000]

I suggest as Bulgarian unit names Voivode - it's an title equivalent to general, Trapezitzy - it means soldiers who guard an passage and instead of Boyars - Bolyars.

[Bobi_TWR]

I suggest as Bulgarian unit names Voivode - it's an title equivalent to general, Trapezitzy - it means soldiers who guard an passage and instead of Boyars - Bolyars.

Don't forget about the Tcar(gotta be Tzar) and about the others i guess translations are better than the horrible names
Peasents-Selqni
Peasent Archers-Selski Streltzi
Bulgarian Archers- Streltzi
Bulgarian Heavy Archers-Tejki Streltzi
Bulgarian Crossbowmen-Arbaletisti
Bulgarian Cavalry-Kavaleriq
Brigands-Banditi
Bulgarian Swordsmen-Mechonostzi
Heavy Infantry-Tejka Pehota
Bulgarian Axemen-Bradvari
Bulgarian Spearmen-Kopienostzi
Bulgarian Heavy Spearmen-Tejki Kopienostzi or Trapezitzy
Light Horse Archers-Leki Konni Streltzi
Heavy Horse Archers-Tejki Konni Streltzi

I think that these names will be ok(i missed some because they were basically mercenaries)

[JC_CESAR]

Would it be possible to add some Knigth of the order of St.Lazarus to the Jerusalem/Cyprus Kingdom rooster ?

[Kjertesvein]

Hmm.

~Wille

[Baron279]

This guy in general visited a serious amount of historical museums in total. There are plenty of pictures which show some good stuff to implement almost for every faction.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/98015679@N04/albums