[Farewell]True Legions for True Romans / Obsolete

[Ritter-Floh]

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[Eldgrimr]

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In all seriousness, I'm not sure. Ancient imagery depicts both, but it seems nearly impossible for some types of spears, such as the sarissa, to be used overhand.

[M@x1mus]

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Hey Ritter! I wonder what the gaulish village has to say about the case.. If i can judge from the way obelix raise his fists on the Romans, i suggest they use overhand

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In all seriousness, I'm not sure. Ancient imagery depicts both, but it seems nearly impossible for some types of spears, such as the sarissa, to be used overhand.

We are talking about hoplites here mate!

[♔Greek Strategos♔]

I can remake each one of the spear animations from scratch. The important achievement would be having an overarm position for the spear and a specific animation for the hoplon. We can talk as much as we want about realism after these things are at least ready for testing.

Soli that's amazing bro. Can't wait for more info.
Plus Rep of course

Soli that is remarkable!!
We indeed tried this in Hellenika with the existed animations although there were no animations for attacking overhand, so the phalanx seems weird and we left it. But creating new animations from scratch?? That is amazing! I thought it was impossible for Rome 2! How did you manage that?
Im stunned with your achievment!!

M@x tipped me on this very interesting thread so here are my 2 cents
Soli and the rest,

MAX and Phal good to see you around guys.

[Agron the Illyrian]

I'm asking this out of ignorance, so marian legionaries didnt have flat shields but instead oval shaped ones? I've always saw them with flat ones (like in vanilla rome 2) every game & movie has them.

[HighOnTea]

I'm asking this out of ignorance, so marian legionaries didnt have flat shields but instead oval shaped ones? I've always saw them with flat ones (like in vanilla rome 2) every game & movie has them.

Firstly, a shield can be flat and oval simultaneously. Marian shields were primarily rounded and concave.
Which movie and game portrays Romans with flat shields, except for the old Spartacus?

[Agron the Illyrian]

What i meant with flat was actually rectangular, its always portrayed as rectangular. Im really confused didnt romans used rectangular shaped shields after marian reforms instead of the oval shaped ones?

https://aljonzc.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=300&h=221

[Agron the Illyrian]

or is that a different period? Are there any another reform after the marians?

*sorry for the double post

[HighOnTea]

The image you have provided features Imperial Roman legionaries, who were issued rectangular concave scutums indeed. This reform came after that of Marian.
This mod doesn't feature the Imperials at the moment.

[Agron the Illyrian]

Oh i see i was kinda confused after seeing them. Thank you for the info, very cool looking units. I also second to Illyria + Massalia reskin suggestion.

[Falco]

What i meant with flat was actually rectangular, its always portrayed as rectangular. Im really confused didnt romans used rectangular shaped shields after marian reforms instead of the oval shaped ones?

https://aljonzc.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=300&h=221

Yeah those guys are probably from around 101-106 AD (Trajan's Dacian wars). These Legionaries are more along the lines of what Julius Caesar's Legions looked like.

[Hannibal STO]

This submod is amazing!! The skins look gorgeous. Will this be compatible to the upcoming DEI 1.2.1? Since Epirus received a unit overhaul with altered/new units and such.

[♔Greek Strategos♔]

This submod is amazing!! The skins look gorgeous. Will this be compatible to the upcoming DEI 1.2.1? Since Epirus received a unit overhaul with altered/new units and such.

Ι'm sure Little Legionaire will make any changes needed for the mod to be absolutely compatible with 1.2.1

[juve]

Any news about overarm animation for hoplites?
Object of dreams of a connoisseurs of antique warfare

[♔Greek Strategos♔]

Any news about overarm animation for hoplites?
Object of dreams of a connoisseurs of antique warfare

Couldn't agree more.

[Falco]

And now the wait begins for the 1.2.1 update.

[♔Greek Strategos♔]

And now the wait begins for the 1.2.1 update.

Let's hope @Little Legionaire is available.

[Falco]

Well everything on the Roman end still works (obvs), and the game doesn't crash when fighting Epeiros.

[♔Greek Strategos♔]

Well everything on the Roman end still works (obvs), and the game doesn't crash when fighting Epeiros.

I was thinking about Epeiros and possible issues yes. Good to know it's ok.

[geala]

The mod only contains variantmeshdefinitions and seems to have the according models. It works but I deleted all Gre_ variantmeshes because they overwrite the new DeI stuff.