Alt-right neo-nazis to speak at Texas A&M University

[Ludicus]

EWveryone was racist in 1800s.

The Republican Party today (voters and in its elected officials) is almost all white.

[Heathen Hammer]

The Republican Party today (voters and in its elected officials) is almost all white.

Neocons, maybe.
Trump got plenty of minority vote, since minorities were disappointed with the previous neoliberal administration.

[Sebidee]

Let them speak. The only way you can prove them wrong is if you hear what they say and point out all their problems. That's the meaning of discourse.

So long as they aren't blatantly inciting to hate or violence then I think it's ok. Also, you can't really pick and choose whose voice can be suppressed. You might think it justified now but that will also make it easier to suppress legitimate speakers in the future.

[nein]

Sebidee is referring to the Marxists right?

[Himster]

So long as they aren't blatantly inciting to hate or violence then I think it's ok.

Incitement to hate? You mean thought-crime?

Also, you can't really pick and choose whose voice can be suppressed. You might think it justified now but that will also make it easier to suppress legitimate speakers in the future.

I'd agree, according to purported western ideals of the post enlightenment, this should be true. But while individuals occasionally manage to live up to their ideals, groups (ie. the fundamental components that really make society) never have lived up to their ideals and never will.
Suppression of individuals to "benefit" the herd is literally all that society does.

[Sebidee]

Incitement to hate? You mean thought-crime?

No I don't mean incitement as in thought crime, I mean it as in literal instruction that you should hate or that you should commit violence. I think it's fair enough in that way. Like, an action likely to result in imminent harm.

[mongrel]

Teach kids how learn about the crimes of Nazism and why we put these goons in prison or hanged them, not how to imitate them.

[Heathen Hammer]

The best promoters of National-Socialism today are anti-fascists, who mainly consist of unintelligent, and uneducated individuals with no manners and lack of basic hygiene.
If really crappy people don't like something, one might conclude that that "something" is pretty good.

[mongrel]

The best promoters of National-Socialism today are anti-fascists, who mainly consist of unintelligent, and uneducated individuals with no manners and lack of basic hygiene.
If really crappy people don't like something, one might conclude that that "something" is pretty good.

It's axiomatic that the best antidote against far right bigotry is a college education. Racists tend to look like this..





or this....

[Heathen Hammer]

Majority of so-called "antifascists" that brag about being "educated" aren't actually educated since their degrees are mostly something in the lines of "gender studies" or some useless major that will guarantee a lifetime career in fast-food industry.
Fun fact: "antifascists" mostly live with their parents and work minimal wage jobs.

[mongrel]

Majority of so-called "antifascists" that brag about being "educated" aren't actually educated since their degrees are mostly something in the lines of "gender studies" or some useless major that will guarantee a lifetime career in fast-food industry.
Fun fact: "antifascists" mostly live with their parents and work minimal wage jobs.

They can read and speak English leaving them less susceptible to shite arguments, for example that Milo's promotion of paedophila is somehow a good thing.

If really crappy people don't like something, one might conclude that that "something" is pretty good.

As they are opposed to genocide and holocaust denial, like most sensible people, do I take it as read that you consider these evils to be 'pretty good'?

[Heathen Hammer]

They seem to be pretty susceptible to shite arguments, hence why they promote globalist agenda, by labeling anyone who opposes it as "nazi", hence why we had antifa morons trashing a university campus to protest a speech by a homosexual Jewish journalist.
Again, the biggest promoters of National-Socialism are "antifascists" since they are predominantly uneducated and unintelligent losers with no careers or accomplishments, hence why anything they say would be viewed in contempt by any normal rational human being.

[mongrel]

They seem to be pretty susceptible to shite arguments, hence why they promote globalist agenda, by labeling anyone who opposes it as "nazi", hence why we had antifa morons trashing a university campus to protest a speech by a homosexual Jewish journalist.
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Hatred of bigotry is a universal concept, hardly confined to antifa.

Milo is a washed-up paedophile-promoting, racist, mysogynist journalist and troll, now rejected by his alt-right chums. His origins and sexuality aren't relevant now he can no longer be the white supremacist's useful idiot..

[Captain Arrrgh!]

Hatred of bigotry is a universal concept, hardly confined to antifa.
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Yeah, bigots as defined by you, and your non-understanding of how the world works.

[Maiar93]

He doesn't have to define bigotry. Like all other words, it actually has a definition we can all look up with ease.

Definition of bigot

• : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
  
  
  
  
  

[Exarch]

question: how is it that none of the students in the audience could mount a proper debate response to spencer? ARent these kids college educated?

[Prodromos]

He doesn't have to define bigotry. Like all other words, it actually has a definition we can all look up with ease.

Definition of bigot

• : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Liberalism or hatred of bigotry isn't a universal concept. It's mostly limited to the Western world. In most cultures challenging the status quo usually leads to alienation or outright violence. Try being an atheist in Pakistan as an example.

Pakistan’s War on Atheism | The Diplomat

On Tuesday a High Court Judge in Pakistan’s capital Islamabad reiterated in a hearing that “blasphemers are terrorists,” as a petitioner sought a ban on social media pages allegedly uploading derogatory posts against Islam and Prophet Muhammad...

The Islamabad police have since registered a case against the owners of these pages. The Senate has approved a resolution demanding strict action against “blasphemous content” online. Meanwhile, the Federal Investigation Agency has published ads in national dailies asking citizens to “help identify blasphemers on Facebook.”

During the hearing this week, the Islamabad High Court (IHC) judge, implied that murder would be inevitable if the pages aren’t blocked. He went on to add that “liberal secular extremism” is a bigger threat than Islamic extremism.

[Heathen Hammer]

question: how is it that none of the students in the audience could mount a proper debate response to spencer? ARent these kids college educated?

Just because you have degree in something like "divercity studies" doesn't mean you are actually educated.
Majority of angry leftists aren't, in fact, educated. They just happen to have college degrees from useless majors that mainly require participation and ideological complicity to be completed. That's why we never see antifa with actual education or career.

[mongrel]

question: how is it that none of the students in the audience could mount a proper debate response to spencer? ARent these kids college educated?

Is there anything worthy of a response? If so what exactly? What does the alt-right offer other than faux reasons to troll female gamers or black celebs? How many buns do their 'comforting words' provide for the White Man's supper?


To quote from the speech, 'Syria, Africa or somewhere else in the Middle-East'. That is the caliber of idiot we are dealing with .


Oddly enough Spencer been much subdued since Inauguration Day. He has been reduced to meme of late.

Liberalism or hatred of bigotry isn't a universal concept. It's mostly limited to the Western world. In most cultures challenging the status quo usually leads to alienation or outright violence. Try being an atheist in Pakistan as an example.

Pakistan’s War on Atheism | The Diplomat

Really? The world is somewhat bigger than 'the west' and a handful of sundry Moose lambic states. I 'm sure the concept of not acting like a dick transcends race, language, creed and culture.

Yeah, bigots as defined by you, and your non-understanding of how the world works.

As Maiar93 said.

God, or natural selection , if you prefer, grants us all the gifts of free will and reason. We can learn to behave in a proper and civil way in the presence of others and it benefits us all if we do. There are those who choose not to live by these reasonable societal norms, but so what? There is no reason why such people can't be so described, as the common dictionary definition suggests.

[Heathen Hammer]

question: how is it that none of the students in the audience could mount a proper debate response to spencer? ARent these kids college educated?

Right-wing arguments are based on facts and logic, left-wing arguments are based on emotions, since their beliefs reject anything that doesn't fit into archaic marxist paradigm. If they don't have the numbers or state authority to impose their views via outright violence, they just respond with literal screeching and rioting.