England: The Evil Empire

[IndianPrince]

Well, the Queen is still the Head of State of these countries.

No not really ... not that of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or any other country ... except Canada, Australia & probably South Africa.

India has a president as the nominal head & the Prime Minister as the executive head.

Prince

[Woad-Warrier]

The only true legacy of an Empire is multi-culturism.

- The queen is head of state of the commonwealth realms those being; Australia, New Zealand and Canada.

[lewis16666]

I think Mozambique joined the Commonwealth due to economic considerations. The application was supported by it commonwealth neighbours.

[Niles Crane]

No not really ... not that of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or any other country ... except Canada, Australia & probably South Africa.

India has a president as the nominal head & the Prime Minister as the executive head.

Prince

You've only listed three countries. I believe it is actually sixteen Commonwealth nations.

Ethnocentrism ftw!

Does everyone lose their sense of humour when they enter the Mudpit? Is it stripped from your mind forcefully?

[Tony83]

The Commonwealth of Nations is a splendid institution whose members celebrate, every four years, with the Commonwealth Games; the world's second-largest multi-sport event after the Olympic Games.

It's popularly believed that it's main functions are both political and economic, but in reality it exists purely to produce high class cricketers and to give Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II opportunities to wear her sparkly tiaras and splendid frocks at official dinners. :laughing:

[Centurion-Lucius-Vorenus]

Pardon?



The French never had it so good!

Except the Angevin empire was an Empire headed by a French Dynasty (Angevin is of Anjou, Central french region) Which had its most important valuable provinces in what is considered France proper. Its Kings didnt speak French they spoke English, Famously Richard Couer de lion was among them.

So no, the angevin empire was in no ways an English empire. It was much more of a French empire.

[LoZz]

No not really ... not that of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or any other country ... except Canada, Australia & probably South Africa.

India has a president as the nominal head & the Prime Minister as the executive head.

Prince

india, pakistan and bangladesh are part of the commonwealth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations

the commonwealth has 53 sovereign states of them the queen is the head of state of 16.
a population of 2 billion

and is 12,147,768 sq miles large (still larger then any previous empire)

[The Super Pope]

Except the Angevin empire was an Empire headed by a French Dynasty (Angevin is of Anjou, Central french region) Which had its most important valuable provinces in what is considered France proper. Its Kings didnt speak French they spoke English, Famously Richard Couer de lion was among them.

So no, the angevin empire was in no ways an English empire. It was much more of a French empire.

It's head was the king of England. English empire. France is a different country.
By your reckoning the British Empire was really German since it was ruled by german kings who didn't speak English and included German territory, or an Indian empire since the most valuable perovince was india

[Centurion-Lucius-Vorenus]

It's head was the king of England. English empire. France is a different country.

A Kingdom which was taken By force, And a title that had at the time of Henri II, had no relation to englishmen. The angevin empire was not headed by englishmen. It was headed by genetic and cultural frenchmen from france.

And since i sense that your Nationalistic pride is clouding your judgement, It dosent matter either way for your Jigonism. Since even if it was "English" which it wasnt, Phillipe Auguste still conquered it in the early 13th century, so i wouldnt get your patriotic panties in a twist.

By your reckoning the British Empire was really German since it was ruled by german kings who didn't speak English and included German territory, or an Indian empire since the most valuable perovince was india

Are you that insane to beleive that theses situations are at all comparable ?

[The Super Pope]

What's the difference between my Hannoverian example and your Agevin one?
And before you get too smug about Phillipe Augustus he didn't take Gascony and by the 14th century we were back.
Also, the French didn't take England, the Normans did and Normans were vikings

[Centurion-Lucius-Vorenus]

What's the difference between my Hannoverian example and your Agevin one?

Its a completely diffrent situation. Angevins didnt convert culturally, and the first true English king Edward I didnt come until 80 years after Bouvines. Secondly, The angevins most important lands were in france, there most important nobles were french.

And before you get too smug about Phillipe Augustus he didn't take Gascony

Well he sure as hell took everything else.

and by the 14th century we were back.

And look at how much a disaster that was for you, by the end you were bankrupt and in the midst of the civil war, While France became the strongest european nation.

Also, the French didn't take England, the Normans did and Normans were vikings

I forgot the norman conquest occured in the 10th century

[Luftwaffels]

How does any of this not make the English evil.


Which they most certainly are.

[Tony83]

How does any of this not make the English evil.


Which they most certainly are.

Of course the English are evil. Why! Didn't they sack your capitol and burn down that quaint little detached des. res. in Pennsylvania Avenue in 1814? And no thought to the cost of white paint for the repair job!

Mind you, you brought it on yourselves for firing on the white flag party that was offering you terms of surrender. Now that was definitely not cricket!

You colonials simply had no manners at all. :laughing:

[Carach]

why was this retard of an american given air time for such a pathetic book of his which is filled with shite?

slander is what it is, people should sue.

oh yes, and richard is historically retarded too by the looks of things..undermines us further.

No not really ... not that of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh or any other country ... except Canada, Australia & probably South Africa.

India has a president as the nominal head & the Prime Minister as the executive head.

Prince

looks like u need to read up on some facts too.

tbh this thread is stupid, people shouldnt even be arguing over the 'facts' of a typical ill-informed american loo book - should just be straight out agreed that the book is slander.

[Darsh]

Everybody know that England Empire was evil because: "England was a French colony gone wrong".
Clemenceau

[The Super Pope]

<cough> Agincourt <cough>

[Woad-Warrier]

<cough> Crecy <cough>

[Tony83]

<cough> Eurovision <cough> :laughing:

[Tabell]

<cough> hastings <cough>

[The Super Pope]

Hastings wasn't France, it was Normans who were Vikings