How do I add Grand Bombard & Canon to Byzantium

**Firebat11** · July 30, 2007, 03:20 PM

I would like to add these two units to the Byzantine roster.

I just need to know which files to edit.

I want to edit this for use with Stainless Steel.

Thank you.

**allos_autos** · July 30, 2007, 08:19 PM

I did the exact same thing, and with Stainless Steel.

First, go in to EDU. Find "EE Grand Bombard" and put the word "byzantium after russia, like in the example below.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Then open battle_models.modeldb and find "ee_cannon_crew". Replace everything from 14 ee_cannon_crew until (BUT DO NOT REPLACE) 15 ee_ribault_crew.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Now for UI. I have attached a file: #ee_grand_bombard.zip
unzip the tga and put it in
/stainless_steel_mod/data/ui/_units/byzantium folder.
if you have SS 4.0 or
/stainless_steel/data/ui/_units/byzantium
if you have SS 3.2 (like me).

That should be it! Reply if you have problems.

**Firebat11** · July 30, 2007, 09:39 PM

well it sorta worked, the Grand Bombard works, but the people's texture are messed up.

I ended up borrowing the textures for Russia. Although that isn't really historic, I'm more worried about getting them to work. If you come up with a solution for the Byzantine skin I would appreciate it. Thanks for your help.

Shot at 2007-07-30

**allos_autos** · July 30, 2007, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Firebat11

well it sorta worked, the Grand Bombard works, but the people's texture are messed up.

I ended up borrowing the textures for Russia. Although that isn't really historic, I'm more worried about getting them to work. If you come up with a solution for the Byzantine skin I would appreciate it. Thanks for your help.

The thing is, the Byzantine textures are not meant to be stretched over the models over which they are being stretched. You will get some distortion if you use that texture. For a more historic angle, try using either the Hungarian, Slave, or Merc textures found in the same folder as the Russian texture:
unit_models/_units/ee_peasant_leather/textures
I mean, Hungary is closer than Russia!

Remember that if you use the slave or merc textures you will have to have a proper character count of that line in battle_models.

The most important part is that the cannons are working. Having characters look pretty is useless if you can't demolish enemy walls!

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**selenius4tsd** · July 31, 2007, 05:44 AM

Moved to Text Editing and Scripting.

**Gundug** · July 31, 2007, 09:22 AM

You should be able to get by just using one of the crews from another Byzantine siege weapon and not hassle with changing the modeldb. This way, the models and textures will be correct. Copy and paste the cannon you want and make a brand new entry just for the Byzantines. Change the stuff in red and make the ownership for the new unit only Byzantium.

For example:

type Byzantine Grand Bombard
dictionary EE_Grand_Bombard ; Grand Bombard
category siege
class missile
voice_type Heavy
banner faction main_missile
banner holy crusade
soldier EE_Cannon_Crew, 16, 2, 1
engine great_bombard
attributes sea_faring, hardy, can_withdraw, gunpowder_unit, cannon, artillery, stakes, stakes
formation 1.5, 1.5, 3, 3, 3, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 6, 3, no, 0, 0, melee, artillery_gunpowder, piercing, knife, 25, 1.8
;stat_pri_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 55, 3, grand_bombard_shot, 375, 30, siege_missile, artillery_gunpowder, blunt, none, 25, 1
;stat_sec_ex 0, 0, 0
stat_sec_attr ap, bp, area, launching
stat_pri_armour 4, 4, 0, leather
;stat_armour_ex 4, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0, leather
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 1
stat_ground 0, 0, 0, 0
stat_mental 5, disciplined, trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 730, 250, 90, 70, 730, 4, 180
armour_ug_levels 1
armour_ug_models Greek_Catapult_Crew
ownership byzantium
era 1 byzantium
;unit_info 6, 0, 8

You then need to add recruitment for the new units in export_descr_buildings.txt. Do a search for "grand bombard" or whatever other gun you need to add, and for every match, copy and paste the line, changing the name and faction to reflect your new cannon.

For example:

recruit_pool "Byzantine Grand Bombard" 1 0.4 3 0 requires factions { byzantium, }

**allos_autos** · July 31, 2007, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Gundug

You should be able to get by just using one of the crews from another Byzantine siege weapon and not hassle with changing the modeldb. This way, the models and textures will be correct. Copy and paste the cannon you want and make a brand new entry just for the Byzantines. Change the stuff in red and make the ownership for the new unit only Byzantium.

I didn't think of that, good call!

**Firebat11** · July 31, 2007, 09:45 AM

Thanks I'll try that when I get home. I agree, I think it'll be easier that way.

I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks.

**Firebat11** · July 31, 2007, 06:49 PM

I got the cannon to work as well.

But I keep getting the "Peasant Default" unit card. I have made and placed a .tga in the right spot, but it's not working.

Maybe a typo??

**Firebat11** · July 31, 2007, 06:54 PM

nevermind, I figured it out. Everything is working now. Thank you very much!

**zowrath** · July 31, 2007, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by Firebat11

nevermind, I figured it out. Everything is working now. Thank you very much!

Could you please tell the others of us just wondering what exactly you figured out about where to put that .tga?

**allos_autos** · August 01, 2007, 01:53 AM

Unit card .tgas go in the following folder
data\ui\_units\faction\
with "faction" being the faction to which you are adding the new unit. The files must be named exactly like they are in the dictionary (see EDU) and must have a pound sign in front of it.

So for the Byzantine Grand Bombard it would look like this:
data\ui\_units\byzantium\#ee_grand_bombard.tga

For unit data, the .tgas go into
\data\ui\unit_info\faction
The filenames do not have a pound sign and have _info at the end. Thus:
\data\ui\unit_info\byzantium\ee_grand_bombard_info.tga
data\ui#ee_grand_bombard.tga

**ReD_OcToBeR** · March 24, 2010, 07:47 AM

i know its been a few years since this topic was last typed in. Im doing the same thing except for i want Monster Bombards recruitable. I have edited the EDU and the Modeldb several times by reading other posts and i beleive ive got them right. I think my problem is in the EDB text that making me crash over and over. I can run the game with my edited modeldb after i reset my EDU and EDB to their orignials so i think the problem is in EDB cause EDU is too easy. I am running SS 6.1 with Byzantine roster overhaul.

Would anyone have some input? Here's what i have in EDB. excuse the double highlighting of the 2nd picture from the first:

**Taiji** · March 24, 2010, 08:50 AM

What does the log say, Red?

**Squid** · March 24, 2010, 10:29 AM

In the future rather than taking screenshots just copy the content of the file and place it in code ([code][/code]) tags.

**ThaniX** · February 19, 2011, 06:59 PM

Hi all.

I've tried ( today ) to add the Monster Bombard and Grand Bombard to Byzantium and I cant seem to be able to. I have no idea of modding and everyone seems to refer to something called "EDU" and by the way people talk about it, it must be important

I looked to find out what EDU is with no success, so please excuse my ignorance because I did not make a thorough search for it.

If anyone could help, or point me to a thread where I could learn more about it, I would appreciate it.

Thanks a lot in advance.
ThaniX

**Squid** · February 20, 2011, 01:40 AM

EDU = export_descr_units.txt. There a tutorial on the edu in the tutorial section. I also believe there a tutorial or possibly even a mod which does exactly what you want.