Bugs Reports & Technical Help

[Jurand of Cracow]

hmm, why do all my settlements have 0 recruitment slots out of sudden after conquering a new city? I get the recruitment slots back on the next turn, but I kinda need those troops now...

Shouldn't happen. Do you possibly have saves - before and after the conquest?

[CleopatraIV]

Shouldn't happen. Do you possibly have saves - before and after the conquest?

I do, but I noticed it was not after the conquest, but already at the beginning of that turn. When I loaded a save from previous turn and ended turn the recruitment slots were there.

[Jurand of Cracow]

I do, but I noticed it was not after the conquest, but already at the beginning of that turn. When I loaded a save from previous turn and ended turn the recruitment slots were there.

so have you lost all the recruitment slots in all settlements out of nothing? very strange

[eyelurker]

so have you lost all the recruitment slots in all settlements out of nothing? very strange

Put this coversation on the bug section because i encounter it myself. Triggered randomly if you demolish building

[Belovèse]

A specific building or any?

[eyelurker]

A specific building or any?

Seems any. Also randomly because sometime all my recruitment are halted and sometime it works just fine. Which is why i only demolish before at the end of the turns, i don't know if it helps but it's good for my conciense if nothing else.

[Belovèse]

Is it reproducible? If you load the same save and destroy the same building does it always happen?

[eyelurker]

Is it reproducible? If you load the same save and destroy the same building does it always happen?

That i don't know. I don't test it

[stefdim7]

Permanent crash has destroyed my Byzantine campaign. It usually happens at the turn of the Germans. Any ideas?

13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> LTGD: decision parameters 'zengid' (ai_label:islam) vs faction 'slave':
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> military: frontline_balance 1, military_balance 0.462263, military_balance_plus_enemies 0.15667, alliance_military_balance 0.462263, free_strength_balance 1
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> faction standing: faction_standing -0.905546, target_faction_standing -0.0550393, global_standing 0.114996, target_global_standing -0.285
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> diplomacy: stance AtWar, num_enemies 2, target_num_enemies 7, has_alliance_against 0, num_turns_allied 0, num_turns_ceasefire -1
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> trusted_allies: trusted_ally 0, trusted_ally_enemy 0, trusted_ally_protectorate 0
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> protectorate: is_protectorate 0, is_protectorate_of_catholic 0
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> papal: excommunicated 0, enemy_excommunicated 0, has_ceasehostilities 0
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> neighbour: is_neighbour 1, target_weakest_neighbour 0, strongest_neighbour 0, borders_all_our_regions 1
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> win conditions: is_faction_to_outlive_target 0, is_target_faction_to_outlive 0
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> misc: production_balance 0.892405, target_religion 4, target_faction slave, num_settlements 5
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> rand 0.958831, difficulty medium, turn_number 93
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> most_desirable 0, target_human 0, target_is_shadow 0
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> LTGD: (islam) invade decision: invade = invade_opportunistic, invade_priority = 20999, want_offer_protect = 0, alliance_against = -199658, can_force_invade = 1
13:38:45.354 [ai.ltgd] [info] <25> LTGD: number of invasion targets: '6
13:38:45.354 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083_Demeanour> fired
13:38:46.461 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/minor_lose.bik]Pause on
13:38:46.461 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/minor_lose.bik]Pause on
13:38:47.832 [system.rpt] [error] Medieval 2: Total War encountered an unspecified error and will now exit.

[Jurand of Cracow]

@Macaras, looks like it may be in one of your files, not in the script.txt ? But it may well had come back to script, there's some time between.
13:38:45.354 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083_Demeanour> fired
13:38:46.461 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/minor_lose.bik]Pause on

[Goffredo85]

Cannon event bug. Description says it should happen around 1324 but instead happened in 1282. i can build gunsmiths but no unit are available.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

https://ibb.co/5rK12sv

[Macaras]

@Macaras, looks like it may be in one of your files, not in the script.txt ? But it may well had come back to script, there's some time between.
13:38:45.354 [game.script.trigger] [trace] Trigger <0083_Demeanour> fired
13:38:46.461 [bink] [debug] [data/fmv/faction/minor_lose.bik]Pause on

It has to be something else, 0083_Demeanour is from DFS, it triggers many times in every game and it was not changed since ancient times..

[Goffredo85]

I can't manage to build 3rd level mount saint michiel and 4th level notre dame in rouen and paris, respectively. they start building regularly for 2/3 turns and then they get cancelled (as in the building queue becomes empty and the building goes back in the available buildings list). the same thing happens every time i try anew. same problem happens for siege workshop too, but this happens in other cities as well (not everywhere though, as i managed to build it in several towns/castles). other buildings seem fine both in rouen/paris and other cities.

[Jurand of Cracow]

I can't manage to build 3rd level mount saint michiel and 4th level notre dame in rouen and paris, respectively. they start building regularly for 2/3 turns and then they get cancelled (as in the building queue becomes empty and the building goes back in the available buildings list). the same thing happens every time i try anew. same problem happens for siege workshop too, but this happens in other cities as well (not everywhere though, as i managed to build it in several towns/castles). other buildings seem fine both in rouen/paris and other cities.

I recall we had a problem with the mines, but it was gone. You may try to edit (with Notepad++ or another un-intrusive editor) file "export_descr_buildings.txt" in the /data folder by deleting "event_counter faction_turn_catholic 1" in both cases below:

wonder_rouen_msm3_nave city requires factions { northern_european, poland, hungary, southern_european, } and hidden_resource france and hidden_resource england and event_counter faction_turn_catholic 1 and event_counter notre_dame 1 and building_present_min_level builders builders3

wonder_paris_notre_dame_4_gothic city requires factions { northern_european, poland, hungary, southern_european, } and event_counter NOTRE_DAME_BUILDABLE 1 and event_counter faction_turn_catholic 1 and building_present_min_level builders builders1 and hidden_resource france and hidden_resource capital and region_religion catholic 50

siege works - I don't know. there's also a counter, you can delete it.

Cannon event bug. Description says it should happen around 1324 but instead happened in 1282. i can build gunsmiths but no unit are available.

I'll fix it - but by deleting the date ;-)
For gameplay, in 1282 is already 300 turns. Historically, for the efffective gunpowder units to appear, it should be like 15century.
Upload your save, it seeems you're quite advanced.

[Goffredo85]

ok will try your suggestion for the buildings! yeah i can see the reasoning for gunpowder units event, even if i am not a fan of them. here/s my latest save btw.

EDIT: which counter should i delete for the siege works? the export_descr_buildings mentions a script that disbands this building for the ai, could this be the problem?

EDIT 2: Partial plate unlocked landsknecht mercenary pikemen, 1300 seems at least a century early for them to appear.

EDIT 3: browsing through the EDB i found out that the heavy armourer building should be unlocked by the transitional armour historical event (coat of plates), that according to the descr_event should happen at turn 160-180 (year 1212/1222) but in my campaign it was unlocked by the half_plate event which happened at turn 336 (year 1300). According to the descr_event said event should happen instead at turn 210/230 (year 1237/1247). is there something wrong then? this also lead to the strange situation where transitional armour does not appear at the right time but it is unlocked at the same time (1300) than partial plate without any sense of progression. so now i have general bodyguard equipped with late 13th centrury armour while at the same time i can recruit chivalric units with mid 14th century armour.

[Jurand of Cracow]

ok will try your suggestion for the buildings! yeah i can see the reasoning for gunpowder units event, even if i am not a fan of them. here/s my latest save btw.

EDIT: which counter should i delete for the siege works? the export_descr_buildings mentions a script that disbands this building for the ai, could this be the problem?

EDIT 2: Partial plate unlocked landsknecht mercenary pikemen, 1300 seems at least a century early for them to appear.

EDIT 3: browsing through the EDB i found out that the heavy armourer building should be unlocked by the transitional armour historical event (coat of plates), that according to the descr_event should happen at turn 160-180 (year 1212/1222) but in my campaign it was unlocked by the half_plate event which happened at turn 336 (year 1300). According to the descr_event said event should happen instead at turn 210/230 (year 1237/1247). is there something wrong then? this also lead to the strange situation where transitional armour does not appear at the right time but it is unlocked at the same time (1300) than partial plate without any sense of progression. so now i have general bodyguard equipped with late 13th centrury armour while at the same time i can recruit chivalric units with mid 14th century armour.

siege works - delete "and event_counter NOTRE_DAME_BUILDABLE 1 and event_counter faction_turn_catholic 1"

I must admit I haven't researched / worked the later dates of the units unlocking, to perhaps you're fully right. Maybe sometime in the future.

dates in descr_event.txt are expressed in years, so the coding means: between turns (1132+2*(160)) and (1132+2*(180))

event historic TRANSITIONAL_ARMOR ; _____ ESSENTIAL reform for many units _____
date 160 180

[Goffredo85]

so (1132+2*(160)) and (1132+2*(180)) means between year 1452 and 1492? but the event happened far before for me. shouldn't it be (1132+(160/2)) and (1132+(180/2)) each year being made by two turns? between year 1212 and 1222 seems in line with what happened in my campaign. besides the point is that the heavy armorer building was NOT unlocked by this event as it should have been, according to the EDB. deleting the counter for rouen and paris wonders did not work. will try for the siege works and report back.

EDIT:

delete "and event_counter NOTRE_DAME_BUILDABLE 1 and event_counter faction_turn_catholic 1"

there is no such counter for the siege works in the EDB:

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{ convert_to castle_siege
levels siege_works
{
; siege_works city requires factions { middle_eastern, byzantium, jerusalem, } or factions { northern_european, eastern_european, serbia, georgia, southern_european, } and event_counter FIRST_WINDMILL 1 and building_present_min_level builders builders2 and event_counter is_the_player 1
siege_works city requires event_counter is_the_player 1 and building_present_min_level builders builders2 and factions { middle_eastern, byzantium, jerusalem, } or factions { all, } and event_counter FIRST_WINDMILL 1
{
convert_to 0
capability
{

[Jurand of Cracow]

sorry, I was inprecise, my bad. between (2*(160)) and (2*(180)), so turns 320 and 360.

from what I see in the code (I have never coded this building yet), it should be:

heavy_armourer city requires factions { northern_european, middle_eastern, eastern_european, greek, southern_european, } and event_counter TRANSITIONAL_ARMOR 1 ; and building_present_min_level market fairground
{
convert_to 3
capability
{
armour 13 requires factions { middle_eastern, } and event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1
armour 13 requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, eastern_european, } and event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1
armour 14
armour 15 requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, eastern_european, middle_eastern, }
armour 16 requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, eastern_european, } and event_counter HALF_PLATE_ARMOR 1
armour 17 requires factions { northern_european, southern_european, eastern_european, } and event_counter FULL_PLATE_ARMOR 1
;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
; UPKEEP/INCOME
income_bonus bonus -400
}
material stone
construction 5
cost 12000
settlement_min city
upgrades
{
plate_armourer
}
}

siege works - right, its:

siege_works city requires event_counter is_the_player 1 and building_present_min_level builders builders2 and factions { middle_eastern, byzantium, jerusalem, } or factions { all, } and event_counter FIRST_WINDMILL 1

so it's more intricately coded, just replace it as follows:

siege_works city requires factions { all, }


Well, that building disappearing from the building queue was also a problem of food_supply chain. I don't remember what we have done to solve it. I must have been tmodelsk or Belovese who solved it... sorrr.

[Goffredo85]

ok now its more clear, thanks for the explanation! maybe 320/360 (1292/1312) it's a bit too late for transitional armour? or maybe partial plate units should be pushed a little bit ahead in time as to avoid the overlapping of the two techs?
will try your suggestion for siege works, hope you'll find a way to fix it!

[Jurand of Cracow]

ok now its more clear, thanks for the explanation! maybe 320/360 (1292/1312) it's a bit too late for transitional armour? or maybe partial plate units should be pushed a little bit ahead in time as to avoid the overlapping of the two techs?
will try your suggestion for siege works, hope you'll find a way to fix it!

I haven't worked on the armour system, it was developped for the base Stainless Steel as part of the RealCombat/RealRecruitment system. I wouldn't like to change anything as changing one detail may break the whole system.